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Old 02-20-2010, 11:10 AM #31
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I would say that the Limited got 245 tires due to fuel economy. Narrower tires = less drag = better fuel economy. Since the Limited has full time 4WD, they probably chose to go w/ narrower tires to keep the same fuel economy numbers as the 4WD SR5 and TE.

I've owned vehicles w/ full time 4WD and you certainly see a fuel economy penalty considering the size and performance of the vehicle.
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Just installed some Nitto's in 275/55/20 on my limited 20's and they look great! No rubbing!







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As far as rim width goes, when comparing a 7.5 inch wide rim to a 7 inch wide rim, when you think about it, the difference is only .25" on each side of the tire. The minimum recommended width is 7.5 inches. Keyword recommended. It doesn't mean you can't go any more or less in either direction. Its just not recommended. In other words, use common sense. I believe that a half inch (or quarter inch on each side) is still within the common sense borders. Just look at speed limits.
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As far as rim width goes, when comparing a 7.5 inch wide rim to a 7 inch wide rim, when you think about it, the difference is only .25" on each side of the tire. The minimum recommended width is 7.5 inches. Keyword recommended. It doesn't mean you can't go any more or less in either direction. Its just not recommended. In other words, use common sense. I believe that a half inch (or quarter inch on each side) is still within the common sense borders. Just look at speed limits.
I agree....25" either side is not going to make any difference. But from the pictures the tire pressures look a little low, and that little yellow dot is supposed to be lined up with your tpms valve stem.
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ContiCrossContact LX 275/55/20 approved rim width 7.0-9.0 might be something to consider for highway driving.
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I agree....25" either side is not going to make any difference. But from the pictures the tire pressures look a little low, and that little yellow dot is supposed to be lined up with your tpms valve stem.
that just shows those tires were improperly installed. i hope this guy goes back to that tire store and gets the job done properly
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that just shows those tires were improperly installed. i hope this guy goes back to that tire store and gets the job done properly
what is the significance of the yellow dot lining up with the valve stem?
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what is the significance of the yellow dot lining up with the valve stem?
The yellow dot represents the lightest spot in the tire. aligning it with the valve stem (which should be the heaviest part a rim) helps to balance the tires when mounted, so fewer weights have to be added to the rim.
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The yellow dot represents the lightest spot in the tire. aligning it with the valve stem (which should be the heaviest part a rim) helps to balance the tires when mounted, so fewer weights have to be added to the rim.
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The yellow dot represents the lightest spot in the tire. aligning it with the valve stem (which should be the heaviest part a rim) helps to balance the tires when mounted, so fewer weights have to be added to the rim.
interesting..mine look like they are lined up with a red/rust colored dot instead of the yellow one. whats the red one for?
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interesting..mine look like they are lined up with a red/rust colored dot instead of the yellow one. whats the red one for?
If the stems are lined up with the red dots they are probably mounted correctly according to this article.

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f you are staring at paint dots on truck tires, you should know that they were installed to assist you in correcting tire balance and radial runout conditions.

Manufacturers of commercial truck radial tires may apply a variety of colored dots on the lower sidewall for customer or factory purposes. Not all tires have markings and even the paint dots on those tires that do are temporary and can be scuffed off during normal shipping, handling and use. That’s why you don’t usually see them on used tires.

The dots on new tires that have them are not critical but are intended to guide technicians when positioning the tire on the rim during the mounting process.

Since it is very hard to make a tire that is perfectly balanced, some tire manufacturers apply yellow dots that indicate the tire’s light balance point and serve to help you balance the assembly while mounting the tire. The yellow dots should be aligned with the valve stem on both steel and aluminum wheels since this is the wheel’s heavy balance point. This will help minimize the amount of weight needed to balance a tire and wheel assembly. So usually, whenever you see a yellow dot, match it up with the valve stem.

This is always true except in cases where a red dot also appears in the lower sidewall. The red dot indicates the high point for both radial runout and radial force variation. As I’m sure you know, not only is it hard for tire manufacturers to make a perfectly balanced tire, it also is very difficult to make a perfectly round tire.

Tires tend to have high spots and low spots. The difference between the high and the low is called radial runout. Radial runout changes the radius of the rotating assembly, causing it to raise and lower the vehicle as it rolls along. That gives the perception that the tire is “hopping” or “bouncing” down the road and ends up delivering a rough ride to the driver and irregular wear to the tread.

Radial force variation is similar to radial runout and is a result of a heavy or thicker area being manufactured into the tire due to variations in component thickness, placement and overlapping. Radial force variation applies more force against the road at the tire’s thicker spot as the tire runs, which causes one sidewall to flex differently than the other. The result is tire/wheel assembly vibration and irregular tread wear.

To avoid or minimize these problems, whenever you see a red spot, match this up with the valve stem—unless you happen to have a steel wheel that has a dimple on the exterior side of the rim area. The dimple indicates the wheels’ low spot and is spec’ed by some original equipment manufacturers so that they can match mount tires and wheels installed on new trucks at the factory.

If you see both a red as well as a yellow dot on the tire, the red dot takes priority. An easy way to remember this is the phrase “Red Rules.” Ignore the yellow dot and match the red dot to the wheel low point dimple as some vehicle manufacturers do or, if no dimple is marked on the wheel, align the red dot with the valve stem.
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If you see both a red as well as a yellow dot on the tire, the red dot takes priority. An easy way to remember this is the phrase “Red Rules.” Ignore the yellow dot and match the red dot to the wheel low point dimple as some vehicle manufacturers do or, if no dimple is marked on the wheel, align the red dot with the valve stem.
I can't find the link right this minute, but I've read that Japanese manufacturers just place the tire stem on that spot rather than marking the rim with a dimple.

Either way, same principle applies: trying to match the tire and rim during mounting to remove any undesirable vibration or hop.
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that just shows those tires were improperly installed. i hope this guy goes back to that tire store and gets the job done properly
At this point, the tires are mounted a balanced just fine, so I'm not gonna deal with the hassle of having to go back and getting it redone. I'm loving the tires - great traction off road and low noise on road.
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since I saw Snow&surf thread on his new limited, he is the 2nd person here Ive seen put 275 tires on the 7inch wide rims. Just to let you all know, here all the tires on tireracks website that come in 275/55/20


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all the tires say the rim width should be between 7.5inches and up for this big tire EXCEPT general grabbers which start at 7inches. I am posting this up because I would hate to see someone blow out there tires here and have a major accident by putting inappropriate tires on their 4R. If your insurance company ever found this out (and they will if you have an accident), you can bet they would give you a hard time about paying out a claim.

This is why i raised this question in the beginning. Get a different rim if you want wider tires to be safe! (i am swapping mine for the fj rims)

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Has anyone come across a tire company who makes 255 or 265 width tires that will fit the stock 20x7 Limited wheel? I would love to see 265-65-20's available.
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I know this is off topic, but why do dealers feel they need to brand this much!!! A license plate frame is enough. This dealership had to put their name on an adhesive plate and tow hitch. You should charge them for advertising

It's a Tennesse/Kentucky thing. They did it to mine as well. So one of these days i'll remove the sticker from my back hatch.
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