12-20-2010, 11:19 AM
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Driver side junction box.
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have you actually seen it or are you guessing? I've looked in there and there is a fog fuse i believe, but not a relay.
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12-20-2010, 06:17 PM
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have you actually seen it or are you guessing? I've looked in there and there is a fog fuse i believe, but not a relay.
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Check the back side perhaps. I am not guessing, and i really hate when people post like that. I referred to the wiring diagram and it indicated a relay was present. I then referred to the relay location page of the manual and it indicated it was in the driver side junction box assembly. I know the 4th gen has relays (not the fog one though) on the back side of the driver side junction box and I would assume on the 5th it would too.
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12-21-2010, 09:30 AM
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Check the back side perhaps. I am not guessing, and i really hate when people post like that. I referred to the wiring diagram and it indicated a relay was present. I then referred to the relay location page of the manual and it indicated it was in the driver side junction box assembly. I know the 4th gen has relays (not the fog one though) on the back side of the driver side junction box and I would assume on the 5th it would too.
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pretty contradictory. you don't like people suggesting you're guessing, but then you assume the 5th has a dedicated fog relay? You say you "know the 4th gen has relays (not the fog one though)". What bearing does that have on this conversation? of course it has relays, but if one isn't specifically the fog light relay it doesn't help with this mod, and it doesn't pertain to this conversation. my '05 Tacoma had a dedicated fog relay which could be easily modded to have them on whenever you wanted. the 5th gen 4R does NOT have this dedicated relay, which makes the mod much harder. Similarly, the '10 and above Tundra did away with the dedicated fog relay. don't just guess, or assume, because you know something about the 4th gen, that you know something about the 5th.
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12-21-2010, 12:36 PM
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the 5th gen does have one for fog, one for hi beams a one for low beams. If you want to see the EWD, just click on the link in my sig. Enjoy
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12-21-2010, 12:58 PM
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pretty contradictory. you don't like people suggesting you're guessing, but then you assume the 5th has a dedicated fog relay? You say you "know the 4th gen has relays (not the fog one though)". What bearing does that have on this conversation? of course it has relays, but if one isn't specifically the fog light relay it doesn't help with this mod, and it doesn't pertain to this conversation. my '05 Tacoma had a dedicated fog relay which could be easily modded to have them on whenever you wanted. the 5th gen 4R does NOT have this dedicated relay, which makes the mod much harder. Similarly, the '10 and above Tundra did away with the dedicated fog relay. don't just guess, or assume, because you know something about the 4th gen, that you know something about the 5th.
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Haha nice. I take the time to do the research for you and you are still coming back with comments. When I said I assume, I was stating I assume it is on the back as the fsm does not say which side it is on. But like i said the relay is there. The 4G comment was to assist you in carrying the mod forward to the 5G. I was stating that the 4G had a fog relay but that it was not located in the driver junction box (its in the engine compartment jb). I was THE first person on any web forum anywhere to perform the fog mod on a 3G 4Runner 10+ years ago, I took that knowledge and applied it to the 4G. Perhaps you can learn from others and put a little effort in and get the mod to work on a 5G, but maybe not.
Last time I am going to state this here, the 5th gen does have a fog lamp relay, period.
This place is really unbelievable currently. Maybe I should just post things like "do a search yourself" on every post like most people are doing now a days.
Have a great holiday.
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12-21-2010, 02:16 PM
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Haha nice. I take the time to do the research for you and you are still coming back with comments. When I said I assume, I was stating I assume it is on the back as the fsm does not say which side it is on. But like i said the relay is there. The 4G comment was to assist you in carrying the mod forward to the 5G. I was stating that the 4G had a fog relay but that it was not located in the driver junction box (its in the engine compartment jb). I was THE first person on any web forum anywhere to perform the fog mod on a 3G 4Runner 10+ years ago, I took that knowledge and applied it to the 4G. Perhaps you can learn from others and put a little effort in and get the mod to work on a 5G, but maybe not.
Last time I am going to state this here, the 5th gen does have a fog lamp relay, period.
This place is really unbelievable currently. Maybe I should just post things like "do a search yourself" on every post like most people are doing now a days.
Have a great holiday.
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sorry I got defensive with you, but your post said "I hate when people post like that" in response to me asking you a question. I was looking for an answer, not an attitude. and the reason I asked was because my Tacoma had the fog relay in the engine compartment box, whereas the 4R does not. And i checked the box in the cab and it wasn't there either. As you can see, I was looking into this back in June. Thanks to your post, and Nashmans diagram, I think now that it's in the kick panel.
again, sorry I took your post the wrong way.
Happy Holidays.
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12-21-2010, 04:38 PM
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sorry I got defensive with you, but your post said "I hate when people post like that" in response to me asking you a question. I was looking for an answer, not an attitude. and the reason I asked was because my Tacoma had the fog relay in the engine compartment box, whereas the 4R does not. And i checked the box in the cab and it wasn't there either. As you can see, I was looking into this back in June. Thanks to your post, and Nashmans diagram, I think now that it's in the kick panel.
again, sorry I took your post the wrong way.
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Not a problem. To clarify, when I said "I hate when people post like that" what I was trying to convey is that i cannot stand it when people post information that they are not sure about. I would never post like that, and though I dont have a 5G I did my research before posting to attempt to assist others as I love the "Fog Mod" and hope others can enjoy it as well. Again, I hope you are successful with this mod on your vehicle. Good luck.
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12-23-2010, 12:42 AM
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the 5th gen does have one for fog, one for hi beams a one for low beams. If you want to see the EWD, just click on the link in my sig. Enjoy
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Wow! There is a ton of information in here!! I only wish I knew exactly what I'm looking at. I understand most, but am still somewhat confused on exactly where to run a jumper wire, ect to make the fog lights independent from the headlights. I am sorry for sounding naive and kinda dumb here, but can someone point out exactly which relay to modify and how? I'd be eternally grateful!
Also looking to do the 12v mod as well (giving the 12v outlets full time power regardless of whether or not the engine is on). Anyone know which relay this is as well? Thanks!!
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12-29-2010, 10:42 AM
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Wow! There is a ton of information in here!! I only wish I knew exactly what I'm looking at. I understand most, but am still somewhat confused on exactly where to run a jumper wire, ect to make the fog lights independent from the headlights. I am sorry for sounding naive and kinda dumb here, but can someone point out exactly which relay to modify and how? I'd be eternally grateful!
Also looking to do the 12v mod as well (giving the 12v outlets full time power regardless of whether or not the engine is on). Anyone know which relay this is as well? Thanks!!
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Has anyone else tried performing these modifications? Still looking for a little help, if someone knows which relays I need to modify. Thanks fellas!
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12-29-2010, 10:52 AM
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I'll play with the relays again, when it's a little warmer
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12-29-2010, 11:41 PM
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Thanks Jesse! Really looking forward to performing these two changes!
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12-30-2010, 04:32 PM
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I'm also interested in this mod. I did a similar mod on my last vehicle and it was nice to have but I gave the 5gen 4r some thought and realized that the fogs are right next to the DRLs. So if you turn on the DRLs and the fogs at the same time without the headlights I feel that might look pretty weird. Just my opinion. It would be interesting to actually see this mod done.
Note: if you have your headlights on the DRL are off and only function as signals.
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12-31-2010, 10:33 AM
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I'm also interested in this mod. I did a similar mod on my last vehicle and it was nice to have but I gave the 5gen 4r some thought and realized that the fogs are right next to the DRLs. So if you turn on the DRLs and the fogs at the same time without the headlights I feel that might look pretty weird. Just my opinion. It would be interesting to actually see this mod done.
Note: if you have your headlights on the DRL are off and only function as signals.
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You are absolutely correct. As I do quite a bit of back country night time driving, my goal with this modification was to be able to hit the high beams and maintain the fog lights. Not only provides better visibility for the driver, but useful light right in front of the vehicle.
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12-31-2010, 01:33 PM
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Ahh... Yes you're right forgot about that. When you turn on your High beams the fogs go out. All the more reason to have this mod done. Thanks for the reminder.
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