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Old 05-19-2020, 12:01 PM #496
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Getting ready to purchase a 17 foot, 2800 gdw camper. Also getting a sway hitch. Driving a 2020 TRD Off Road (2010 SR5 previous). I have read tons of forums and all on this site. Lots of great info. I will post my experience once we go pick it up in Nebraska.. And no 5th gear!
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Hi, All. Been a little while since I posted here but thought Iíd add my info. Iíve towed my 23í travel trailer about 20k miles since Iíve had my T4R. For reference, the trailer is about 3200lbs dry and 3600 full of everything. Like everyone else, I highly recommend airbags and a WDH. I use both.

My contribution to this thread is that I also installed 4.56 gears. Since the gear swap, towing is definitely better. However, you will definitely notice the higher rpm and loss of mpg. Itís been just over a year since Iíve had the gears installed and I lose about 1.5mpg during the summer and closer to 2-2.5mpg in the winter. I have a theory that in addition to the crap winter fuel, the recommend viscosity gear oil hurts, because I notice a difference with change in outside temps (same drive and season). This is all while NOT towing.

Anyhoo, during towing, my mileage is about the same. You canít really tow any faster, or expect that youíre going to be able to use 5th gear (although you can a little bit), but everything is a lot nicer. Itís a Toyota, so itís happy to rev a little bit higher all the time. There is a noticeable improvement to acceleration and just getting out of your own way. Sorry, I did not take before and after 0-60 times.

My final version of the T4R is to get 34x10.5 tires (maybe the 285/70 load C) before my truck succumbs to the salt here in Syracuse. With that combo, the calculators would give me a 7% increase in mechanical ratio, vs the 15% I have now with stock size tires. Im running load E tires and the decrease in weight and taller tires may actually push me back towards ďnormalĒmpg. And Iíd still have better towing.

Would I do gears again? Yes, just sooner. If youíre contemplating a lift or bigger tires and you tow, it should be very high on your list.

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I pulled about 2300 pounds of car hauler with a 740 lb motorcycle on it over about 500 miles last weekend and the truck just was NOT happy. Kept it in 4th to maintain 65 mph, and the trans unlocked and/or down shifted to 3rd with only the slightest uphill grade. All in all i figured I was runnning about 7600 lbs, truck, trailer, stuff and my wife and me.

We are considering getting a small off road style trailer (teardrop style maybe?) for retirement playing and a run to the Arctic ocean. Wont even consider it without a re - gear. With 33's and all the (guesstimated) weight, 4.88 seems to be the ticket for ease of towing based on the various gearing calculators I have played with...fuel mileage running solo be damned.

I have no doubt that there are anecdotal stories of stock TR4's pulling 5000+ pounds with "no issues". To borrow a phrase, "You spent so much time worrying about whether you could, you didn't stop to consider whether you should...

Happy Towing!
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