Home Menu

Site Navigation


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 01-30-2011, 10:30 AM #1
chetJ's Avatar
chetJ chetJ is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: pa
Posts: 501
chetJ is on a distinguished road
chetJ chetJ is offline
Member
chetJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: pa
Posts: 501
chetJ is on a distinguished road
Dealer wants a deposit- should I agree or no?

The dealer that I have been working with was able to identify a T4R that I want within 100 miles of where I live. He said that he could certainly look into getting it for me, but that he would need a $500 refundable deposit in order to do so. That is, if that particular vehicle is no longer available, he would give me my money back. I have of course said that I would need all of this in writing, including the fact that the deposit applies only to that one particular vehicle, before I give him the deposit.
Do you guys think that this is a reasonable request on the dealers part?
Any input would be great- thank you all!
Dr.J
chetJ is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-30-2011, 10:34 AM #2
Thai's Avatar
Thai Thai is offline
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Eastern USA
Posts: 18,770
Thai is a splendid one to behold Thai is a splendid one to behold Thai is a splendid one to behold Thai is a splendid one to behold Thai is a splendid one to behold Thai is a splendid one to behold Thai is a splendid one to behold
Thai Thai is offline
Elite Member
Thai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Eastern USA
Posts: 18,770
Thai is a splendid one to behold Thai is a splendid one to behold Thai is a splendid one to behold Thai is a splendid one to behold Thai is a splendid one to behold Thai is a splendid one to behold Thai is a splendid one to behold
Go on toyota website and find all the dealers in your 100 miles range. Then go to their individual website and look up the inventory yourself. This will:

1. save you from a deposit with a rat (aka dealer)
2. allow you to deal directly with the dealer that has your 4runner...thus, allowing you to haggle more effectively. If you had your local dealer get the car, then he will likely not bargain with you since he has to spend money in getting a car to his dealership (or via trading with the other dealer). Either way, his effort in getting your 4runner will come out of YOUR pocket.
3. 100 miles isn't that far away...so, it is worth it to do the legwork yourself instead of having a rat do it.

Good luck.
__________________
My 2019 Land Cruiser
My 2023 Ford F150 Platinum FX4 Powerboost with 7.2 kW ProPower Onboard
2023 Lexus GX
2024 Subaru Impreza RS
Lets Go Brandon!
Thai is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-30-2011, 10:39 AM #3
chetJ's Avatar
chetJ chetJ is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: pa
Posts: 501
chetJ is on a distinguished road
chetJ chetJ is offline
Member
chetJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: pa
Posts: 501
chetJ is on a distinguished road
I was actually able to bargain with this dealer and reach a very good price for the vehicle that I want.

Basically, True car shows that the factory invoice for the car that I want is 40611 and the dealer that I am working with agreed to sell the car to me for 39500+ tax, tags and title (I was able to achieve this by playing one dealer against the other).

I also have a good relationship with this dealer which helped tremendously in negotiating the price down to what I wanted.

I am not sure if I will be able to do the same with the other dealer who actually has the car.
So given this- what would you recommend then?

Last edited by chetJ; 01-30-2011 at 10:45 AM.
chetJ is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-30-2011, 10:53 AM #4
philsey's Avatar
philsey philsey is offline
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Illinois
Posts: 6,046
Real Name: Um, Phil?
philsey has a spectacular aura about philsey has a spectacular aura about
philsey philsey is offline
Elite Member
philsey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Illinois
Posts: 6,046
Real Name: Um, Phil?
philsey has a spectacular aura about philsey has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by chetJ View Post
I was actually able to bargain with this dealer and reach a very good price for the vehicle that I want.

Basically, True car shows that the factory invoice for the car that I want is 40611 and the dealer that I am working with agreed to sell the car to me for 39500+ tax, tags and title (I was able to achieve this by playing one dealer against the other).

I also have a good relationship with this dealer which helped tremendously in negotiating the price down to what I wanted.

I am not sure if I will be able to do the same with the other dealer who actually has the car.
So given this- what would you recommend then?
Given this update; that you are satisfied with the dealer, and the price, my question is why wouldn't you give him a deposit? You're asking him to comitt to getting the truck for you - he's asking for a comittment in return - seems fair to me. Get on it before your truck gets sold.

But yes, absolutely get everything in writing. This also the time to negotiate wheel/tire swaps, roof racks, running boards, ext wtys, etc etc -- NOT after the fact.

EDIT: This "including the fact that the deposit applies only to that one particular vehicle, before I give him the deposit" for sure - so he can't keep you on the hook for another truck.
__________________
2010 Blizzard Pearl SR5/P - traded
2018 Superwhite SR5/P ... IS350 retrofit.

Last edited by philsey; 01-30-2011 at 10:55 AM.
philsey is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-30-2011, 11:00 AM #5
MaylonTRD's Avatar
MaylonTRD MaylonTRD is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Shreveport
Posts: 57
MaylonTRD is on a distinguished road
MaylonTRD MaylonTRD is offline
Member
MaylonTRD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Shreveport
Posts: 57
MaylonTRD is on a distinguished road
The only time I put down a deposit with the dealership was for our t4r also. They took a credit card number from us but never charged the card. They have fees they have to pay to trade vehicles with another dealer and they just want a small deposit for good faith that you are really going to buy it. I don't think it's a big deal at all. Just my $.02
__________________
2010 4Runner SR5 Pearl White--Wife's
2007 Tundra CM SR5 5.7 2WD TRD Slate
Bilstein 5100 2.5" lift BFG KO 305/65R18 18x9 XD Hoss Chrome
Pioneer AVIC-F700BT w/Sirius and Ipod Controls, GoRhino Dominator II Nerf Bars
Debadged,Craven Speed Stubby Antenna, Spintech Sportsman Street 3247XL Muffler
MaylonTRD is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-30-2011, 11:00 AM #6
4RBob 4RBob is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Norton, MA
Posts: 587
4RBob is an unknown quantity at this point
4RBob 4RBob is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Norton, MA
Posts: 587
4RBob is an unknown quantity at this point
Have they shown you the invoice for the truck? Have them write the VIN into the deal to be sure the deposit is for that particular vehicle.
__________________
2003.5 4Runner Sport, V8, Galactic Gray, Cornfed 1" front & 3/4" rear, Bilstein 5100's, FJ Cruiser wheels, 265/70/17 Firestone AT's
2010 4Runner Trail, Magnetic Grey, PIAA horns, FJ TT coils/shocks, Daystar front pre-load spacers, 265/70/17 Firestone AT's
4RBob is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-30-2011, 11:07 AM #7
philsey's Avatar
philsey philsey is offline
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Illinois
Posts: 6,046
Real Name: Um, Phil?
philsey has a spectacular aura about philsey has a spectacular aura about
philsey philsey is offline
Elite Member
philsey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Illinois
Posts: 6,046
Real Name: Um, Phil?
philsey has a spectacular aura about philsey has a spectacular aura about
^^^ Perfect!
__________________
2010 Blizzard Pearl SR5/P - traded
2018 Superwhite SR5/P ... IS350 retrofit.
philsey is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-30-2011, 11:13 AM #8
TrailHawk TrailHawk is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Earth
Posts: 55
TrailHawk is on a distinguished road
TrailHawk TrailHawk is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Earth
Posts: 55
TrailHawk is on a distinguished road
Just have them give you a receipt that states it's fully refundable. That's what I did. In my case they didn't even deposit it.
__________________
2011 TE
TrailHawk is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-30-2011, 11:18 AM #9
chetJ's Avatar
chetJ chetJ is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: pa
Posts: 501
chetJ is on a distinguished road
chetJ chetJ is offline
Member
chetJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: pa
Posts: 501
chetJ is on a distinguished road
Alright- looks like the consensus is that it is ok for me to put the deposit down as long as I have everything in writing! Thank you for the quick feedback all- this was very helpful.
chetJ is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-30-2011, 11:35 AM #10
alc9020 alc9020 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 113
alc9020 is on a distinguished road
alc9020 alc9020 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 113
alc9020 is on a distinguished road
Personally I don't like to buy anything without seeing it first, especially large ticket items. Do you know exactly what you're getting? I few things to look out for. Is it a demo vehicle? How many miles does it have? You don't want to find out the vehicle has a 500+ miles on it after you place a deposit and agree to a price when the dealership is only 100 miles away.
alc9020 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-30-2011, 12:02 PM #11
Thai's Avatar
Thai Thai is offline
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Eastern USA
Posts: 18,770
Thai is a splendid one to behold Thai is a splendid one to behold Thai is a splendid one to behold Thai is a splendid one to behold Thai is a splendid one to behold Thai is a splendid one to behold Thai is a splendid one to behold
Thai Thai is offline
Elite Member
Thai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Eastern USA
Posts: 18,770
Thai is a splendid one to behold Thai is a splendid one to behold Thai is a splendid one to behold Thai is a splendid one to behold Thai is a splendid one to behold Thai is a splendid one to behold Thai is a splendid one to behold
Quote:
Originally Posted by chetJ View Post
I am not sure if I will be able to do the same with the other dealer who actually has the car.
So given this- what would you recommend then?
Easy...just call the other dealer with the price of the local dealer and ask them to beat it!! If they cannot, then go with local dealer. What do you have to lose? Remember, you can still make your local dealer happy by having your service with them...and this is where they make the most money btw...so, you're not really screwing them in any way! Remember, in today's society, loyalty does not exist...certainly not at any car dealership!
__________________
My 2019 Land Cruiser
My 2023 Ford F150 Platinum FX4 Powerboost with 7.2 kW ProPower Onboard
2023 Lexus GX
2024 Subaru Impreza RS
Lets Go Brandon!
Thai is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-30-2011, 12:12 PM #12
westwind77's Avatar
westwind77 westwind77 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 1,986
westwind77 will become famous soon enough
westwind77 westwind77 is offline
Senior Member
westwind77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 1,986
westwind77 will become famous soon enough
I put a $100 deposit down on mine to hold it, but it was physically at the dealership and I wanted to 'sleep on it' to make sure it was what I really wanted. It was fully refundable, so there was no worries about not being able to get it back.

$500 is higher, but make sure it is fully refundable, no matter what (just to be on the safe side). If they get the 4R in and it has 200+ miles like that other thread you might want to back out. If for some reason you don't end up liking the specific color or options you can back out. Putting a non-refundable deposit down on it is something I would not do.

Now, if you are 100% sure this IS the 4R you want and you have a great price then I see nothing wrong with putting the money down.

It comes down to 'pay me now or pay me later'. It will just be $500 less when you do all the paperwork. Don't sweat it, toss the deposit down, get the 4R you want and have fun!
__________________
2010 SR5 Magnetic Gray Metallic
Leather Package, Sunroof, Front & Rear AC Outlets, XM Radio, USB, IPod, Bluetooth, Backup Cam, Sliding Rear Deck, Floor/Cargo Mats, Wheel Locks, Cross Bars, Cargo Cover, FIAMM El Grande Horns, WeatherTech Digital Liners, Rocky Road SuperSliders (SR5 Version), aFe Power Pro Dry S Air Filter, Yokohama Geolandar A/T G015's
westwind77 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-30-2011, 01:15 PM #13
atomicbob's Avatar
atomicbob atomicbob is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 79
atomicbob is on a distinguished road
atomicbob atomicbob is offline
Member
atomicbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 79
atomicbob is on a distinguished road
"I" offered a deposit to the dealer when it didn't have the truck I wanted. I did this to show them I was a serious buyer. Terms of my deposit.

1. Refundable if vehicle not obtained in 30 days.
2. 2011 SR5 in Gray or Black w/3rd row seats cloth or leather.
3. Minimum options of CP and DJ (and a few others).
4. No dealer installed options.
5. Pricing of $1,000 below invoice.

Within two weeks I had two trucks from which to choose (one black with cloth and one gray with leather).

I would say that the deposit helped my negotiation.
__________________
2011 4Runner SR5, Magnetic Gray Metallic
Leather Package w/Third Row Seats
Retired: 2000 4Runner SR5 (247K Miles)
Retired: 1996 GMC (POS) Jimmy (115K Miles)
Retired: 1984 Honda Accord Hatchback (305K Miles)
atomicbob is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 12-25-2015, 09:55 AM #14
sandcrawler's Avatar
sandcrawler sandcrawler is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: coastal maine
Posts: 2,732
sandcrawler has a spectacular aura about sandcrawler has a spectacular aura about
sandcrawler sandcrawler is offline
Senior Member
sandcrawler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: coastal maine
Posts: 2,732
sandcrawler has a spectacular aura about sandcrawler has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by soap94 View Post
Hello, It depends. As it was mentioned before, go on official toyota website and user dealer locator. But sometimes it doesn't work. For example, my local dealership wasn't shown on toyota's website Toyota Fremont service center in California - Toyota dealer and service CA (California)
Use google+brains and official toyota website
this thread is five years old. offering the OP purchase advice now is like digging up a corpse and giving it tips on diet and exercise.
__________________
10 TE - salsa, KDSS+JBL+Nav
ICON XT COs (+IVD) & tubular UCAs • ICON rear coils & 2.5 remote reservoirs + shin guards • Shrockworks • FN Five Star + 285/70 Mickey Thompson MTZ • TRD CAI + aFe Pro Dry S • Magnaflow • ARB diff breather • rack delete + Thule • H9 lo, 9011 hi, selective Y fog • FJ shifter • ScanGauge
06 SE, galactic gray V8: sold // 93 SR5, lots of rust, salt, & mods: R.I.P. // 71 FJ40, never should've let it go
sandcrawler is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 12-25-2015, 10:03 AM #15
philsey's Avatar
philsey philsey is offline
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Illinois
Posts: 6,046
Real Name: Um, Phil?
philsey has a spectacular aura about philsey has a spectacular aura about
philsey philsey is offline
Elite Member
philsey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Illinois
Posts: 6,046
Real Name: Um, Phil?
philsey has a spectacular aura about philsey has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by sandcrawler View Post
this thread is five years old. offering the OP purchase advice now is like digging up a corpse and giving it tips on diet and exercise.
C'mon, at least he searched, eh?
__________________
2010 Blizzard Pearl SR5/P - traded
2018 Superwhite SR5/P ... IS350 retrofit.
philsey is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
4 Runner Decision - HELP? jonesek 4th Gen T4Rs 16 02-27-2008 03:12 AM
Toyota Dealer Ad fees & Dealer Holdback Martin8 4th Gen T4Rs 11 04-06-2006 12:51 AM
Is my dealer crazy???? Scrappy125 4th Gen T4Rs 28 12-13-2005 01:04 PM
Need List of Dealer Changable Options snap315 4th Gen T4Rs 9 09-30-2005 10:48 AM
'99 SR5 hesitation & misfire; dealer can't locate problem bsackamano Problems & Warranty Issues 3 09-27-2005 10:29 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:51 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
***This site is an unofficial Toyota site, and is not officially endorsed, supported, authorized by or affiliated with Toyota. All company, product, or service names references in this web site are used for identification purposes only and may be trademarks of their respective owners. The Toyota name, marks, designs and logos, as well as Toyota model names, are registered trademarks of Toyota Motor Corporation***Ad Management plugin by RedTyger
 
Copyright © 2020