02-18-2011, 01:03 AM
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Midwest region doesn't sell Trail models. Will this change in 2012? I'd buy one if I didn't have to special order it.
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What City/State are you referring to when you say Midwest region?
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02-18-2011, 08:08 AM
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Same Boat!
Totally ridiculous! I line in Indiana, and couldn't find a zip code on the website that would LET me configure and buy a Trail.
What a stupid way to run a consumer retail effort! Why would you not provide your WHOLE product line legal to be sold in any state to consumers. Just 50 miles over across a state line however (Cincinnati) if you use a zip there you can build a trail. My dealers local say they can't get a Trail, but the Cinti. dealer had two sitting on their lot!
Very strange way to run a business!
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02-18-2011, 08:36 AM
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Fwiw I had to go to three different dealers before I found one that would even order me a TE. I don't believe that they "cant" get them, it's just that they can make more money for less work if you buy one off their lot. If you preference order, that one is. Not taken out of their mandatory allotment, so they basically have to sell that 4R twice.
You might try contacting the "Internet departments" at a few dealers and ask for quotes on TEs.
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02-18-2011, 10:18 AM
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Not sure...
The dealer I was trying to buy from is run by a personal friend. He was pulling his hair out trying to get the regional Toyo rep to help. He just said, call other dealers and do a trade... which they ended up doing.
Another dealer told him to order 12 4Rs and preference the trail as #1... then cancel the orders once the Trail comes in... CRAZY! Problem is according to him they may have their cancellation in essence... "cancelled" and have to take them.
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02-18-2011, 04:11 PM
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I have a friend that works at a dealership and he told me the Trail is not selling so they aren't making to ship out here (California). The only way to get one is by special order and most Toyota dealerships aren't able to do special orders because they don't have high volume. (I'm told only 1 dealership in So Cal can do it, which is Longo in El Monte and I've talked to them, they are sticking close to MSRP regardless of any program you go through IE. costco, true car, Amex, etc...) It's a restriction from Toyota, not the dealerships.
SO... most dealers will let your sale go if all you want is a TE because they simply can't get one. After all, they can't sell you a car they don't have or can't get.
Good luck...
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02-18-2011, 04:52 PM
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I have a friend that works at a dealership and he told me the Trail is not selling so they aren't making to ship out here (California). The only way to get one is by special order and most Toyota dealerships aren't able to do special orders because they don't have high volume. (I'm told only 1 dealership in So Cal can do it, which is Longo in El Monte and I've talked to them, they are sticking close to MSRP regardless of any program you go through IE. costco, true car, Amex, etc...) It's a restriction from Toyota, not the dealerships.
SO... most dealers will let your sale go if all you want is a TE because they simply can't get one. After all, they can't sell you a car they don't have or can't get.
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Good info.
When I am ready and I cannot locate one in California then I will buy one from Las Vegas. I think they should have Trails there.
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02-18-2011, 04:54 PM
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With regards to the few TE's in SoCal, they are left over 2010's and they are black and were not outfitted with the Navigation, not really the color or features I was looking for. The local dealers are unable to order them. So the only choice left in my case was to search elsewhere. It so happen I found a few 2011 in Magnetic Gray with Nav and without. Great deals were offered all. So its just a matter of the desire and willingness to go and get it. In my particular deal it was done over the phone and I had it delivered to my door step. Obviously, no trade to deal with which made it much simpler.
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Mossy Toyota here in SD had a black TE a couple months ago when I went in for an oil change, but it could have been a left over '10 like you said.
Must be nice for you (keeping it very rare) if they will no longer be getting any new TE's... I still haven't seen any on the road here in San Diego
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02-18-2011, 05:43 PM
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I "ordered" a trail about 6 weeks ago with my local dealer. They had one on the lot, but it was in a different color than I wanted. They told me it may take 12-14 weeks, so I am still waiting. If I was less picky I know of 3 or 4 within 100 miles of me.
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02-18-2011, 09:07 PM
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What City/State are you referring to when you say Midwest region?
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02-18-2011, 09:37 PM
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Production
Be patient, they will make more. Kind of 'in between' time right now.
If you really want one I will sell you mine ...
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02-18-2011, 09:38 PM
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02-18-2011, 11:05 PM
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They are getting hard to find!
I just checked the inventory for around the Dallas/Ft. Worth area .......
17 dealerships
69 4Runners with 25 being Blizzard Pearl
and ZERO Trail Editions
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02-18-2011, 11:20 PM
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Why are they hard to find in some areas???
I can only see three reasons for limiting where the Trail edition is available. The first two are based on the concept of stock turn-over. Dealers and Toyota don't want any vehicle to sit on the lot very long (it cost $$$ and doesn't look good). The third is a variant of this.
1) Demand for the Trail edition isn't doing good across the country. So Toyota is limiting them to where the sell best reducing how long they sit sit on the dealers lot. If this is the case, the Trail edition could go bye-bye, maybe bringing back the Sport.
2) Demand for the Trail edition isn't that popular in just certain areas and sits on the dealers lot longer than Toyota wants. To address this, Toyota limits them to other areas, forcing people to buy what the dealers have in stock and help with stock rotation.
3) Toyota doesn't want to let the Trail edition take sales from the FJ. I'm not too sure about this since, to me, the buyer of an FJ vs. 4Runner would seem to be two fairly different demographic groups.
Anyone have other reasons they can put forth why Toyota would do this. Since I'm currently trying to decide what to buy, this is of interest to me (I don't want to buy the last model year).
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02-19-2011, 01:04 AM
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Supply problems could be one reason. Nav units and the off-road driving systems could be a problem to source, forcing them to hold the nav units for the Limited and suspend production for the Trail. Could be KDSS related or even something as mundane costs.
An early report mentioned that the Trail Edition was going to be some small percentage of the overall production, but my google-fu has grown weak lately and I can't find the article. If I remember correctly, it was 15%.
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02-19-2011, 01:14 AM
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Couldn't find one in the Gulf States area!!! Tried also the mafia run SE states of Alabama and Georgia, but did not find one.
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