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Old 05-17-2018, 08:10 PM #151
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If someone can get me the last 8 digits of the vin for a Canadian model, I can get the part# for the cooler. A pic of how it's mounted would be good too. Also, I wonder where the ATF temp gauge is mounted.
Did anyone ever find the part # for the Canadian OEM cooler?
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I am looking into purchasing a bigger boat that will weigh upwards of 3800lbs with boat, motor, fuel and trailer.

With this in mind I am using the search function !!!!

Found this thread on transmission coolers since I plan to perform this upgrade with the increased towing work load.

This video from e-trailer is very relevant to this thread, hope it helps some folks out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voplmkru63A
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I did install a transmission oil cooler and a 180 degrees F. thermostat on my 2016 4Runner.
I purchased the largest cooler that was available and ordered a 180 deg. transmission oil thermostat from Amazon.
I'll be happy to answer any questions.

Just an FYI:
The existing cooler (heat exchanger) is located inside the radiator. It's on the bottom of the radiator. Inlet is on the passenger side, outlet on the driver side. The additional cooler will connect to the driver side of the radiator.
Mount the new cooler so the inlet is on the bottom and outlet on top. This will eliminate any air pockets and thus improve cooling efficiency.
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I am looking into purchasing a bigger boat that will weigh upwards of 3800lbs with boat, motor, fuel and trailer.

With this in mind I am using the search function !!!!

Found this thread on transmission coolers since I plan to perform this upgrade with the increased towing work load.

This video from e-trailer is very relevant to this thread, hope it helps some folks out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voplmkru63A
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That video has several major flaws. I made several comments but they keep deleting them.

They advised to determine the inlet and return by tamperature. This is wrong. As a result, they connected the cooler lines to the wrong side of the radiator!

They attached the new cooler to the aluminum bumper and the upper brace. Do not do this! The bumper moves in relation to the upper support brace, because the vehicle frame moves in relation to the body (separated by rubber mounts). This will cause premature cracks and eventual failure.

Auxiliary cooler being this far from the radiator will no be very efficient at low speed (when it's needed most).

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I did install a transmission oil cooler and a 180 degrees F. thermostat on my 2016 4Runner.
I purchased the largest cooler that was available and ordered a 180 deg. transmission oil thermostat from Amazon.
I'll be happy to answer any questions.

Just an FYI:
The existing cooler (heat exchanger) is located inside the radiator. It's on the bottom of the radiator. Inlet is on the passenger side, outlet on the driver side. The additional cooler will connect to the driver side of the radiator.
Mount the new cooler so the inlet is on the bottom and outlet on top. This will eliminate any air pockets and thus improve cooling efficiency.
I don't plan on installing a thermostat. I just don't think it is necessary as the temp of the trans fluid has no bearing on performance as far I as know...Anyway....

I have a question for you. How did you determine the fluid level after the install? Did you follow the factory service manual way (which is a total pain) or use some other method?

I was planning on timing my install with getting the trans serviced at the dealer at 30,000 miles cuz I just don't want to deal with the factory method of determining the proper fluid level in the trans. But I heard the service is $400 and if there is an easier way I would love to hear it.... Thanks!
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I am looking into purchasing a bigger boat that will weigh upwards of 3800lbs with boat, motor, fuel and trailer.

With this in mind I am using the search function !!!!

Found this thread on transmission coolers since I plan to perform this upgrade with the increased towing work load.

This video from e-trailer is very relevant to this thread, hope it helps some folks out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voplmkru63A
3800lbs wet is well below your tow rating, you don't need anything special. The SAE test to determing the towing capacity involves a starting from a stop on 12% grade multiple times in a row, as well as a long hill climb in 100 degree weather with the AC on max -- you'll be fine towing 75% of your towing capacity in florida
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I don't plan on installing a thermostat. I just don't think it is necessary as the temp of the trans fluid has no bearing on performance as far I as know...Anyway....

I have a question for you. How did you determine the fluid level after the install? Did you follow the factory service manual way (which is a total pain) or use some other method?

I was planning on timing my install with getting the trans serviced at the dealer at 30,000 miles cuz I just don't want to deal with the factory method of determining the proper fluid level in the trans. But I heard the service is $400 and if there is an easier way I would love to hear it.... Thanks!
What makes you think that the dealer technician will follow all proper procedures? I used to work at a dealership. Oil change is usually done by the least qualified technician. I would never let them change oil in my vehicle. I'm not saying that all Toyota techs are dumb but I'm not willing to play a "Russian roulette" game with servicing my transmission. I did not even let them do a free engine oil change and did it myself with a much better Amsoil 0W-20 Signature oil.

I managed to install the cooler without hardly spilling any fluid. A few drops dropped on the catch pan but it's negligible.
The new cooler and additional hoses don't take much fluid. It's definitely not enough to make a noticeable change in transmission fluid level in the transmission. I decided not to mess with adding any fluid at this time.

What did surprise me was that the fluid looked clear "brownish". Not much red in it. The vehicle only has 24,000 easy miles on the odometer. I thought the transmission fluid was good for the life of the transmission. Perhaps the life of the transmission is set as 60k miles because that's when the factory warranty ends? There is no way this fluid will last 100k.
I will try to replace the trans fluid by doing "drain and refill" several times. The amount of drained fluid will be measured and same amount of fresh fluid will be put back into transmission. Once done, I will check the level once the transmission fluid gets to proper temperature (indicated on OBDII scanner).
I will use WS Toyota fluid this time since it's still on warranty. Once the warranty is over, it will be replaced with Amsoil Signature Fuel Efficient transmission fluid. Amsoil makes great lubricants.

As far as thermostat goes... I think it can be beneficial in winter months. Toyota installs thermostats on vehicles equipped with auxiliary transmission coolers. A thermostat will help to keep transmission temperature variations to a minimum. It's only $50 extra.

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I don't plan on installing a thermostat. I just don't think it is necessary as the temp of the trans fluid has no bearing on performance as far I as know...Anyway....

I have a question for you. How did you determine the fluid level after the install? Did you follow the factory service manual way (which is a total pain) or use some other method?
Ok, I just did a partial replacement of transmission fluid. After doing more thinking, I went with Amsoil Fuel Saving Signature series synthetic fluid.
It was a relatively simple procedure. This vehicle has both drain fitting and a level fitting on the bottom of the oil pan, unlike some front wheel drive Toyotas with only one fitting.
Factory procedure is a bit complicated and requires a special tool that applies vacuum to the fill hole. They also use a special, variable length tube to determine proper fluid level. This tool is not absolutely required if you have time to allow your transmission to cool down. The tool can be very useful to save a lot of time so they can measure proper fluid level at any temperature. The existing factory level tube will measure correct level only within a narrow temperature range specified by the manufacturer. Any excess fluid will simply drain out.
All you need is a way to measure fluid temperature in the pan and a way to fill transmission with fresh transmission fluid. I bought a Scangauge II and a manual pump from Amsoil.com that fits Amsoil oil bottles. A similar pump can be purchased on Amazon for around $10 if you plan to use Toyota WS fluid. Scangauge can be programmed to read transmission fluid temperature.
All you need is to let the engine and transmission to cool below 90 degrees. Let it sit overnight for best results. Buy a set of new drain plug gaskets from Toyota. I reused the old ones with no issues.
Vehicle must be level. Make sure you can remove the fill plug before draining any fluid out. Loosen the level check plug (front) a bit but don't remove it yet
If you want to check the level only, start the engine and shift from park to reverse - drive and back to reverse. Leave at each position for a few seconds to allow the fluid to circulate. Keep the engine running in park. Once transmission temperature gets over 90 degrees, unscrew the level check plug and watch for any fluid to come out. Nothing or very little should come out until temperature gets to around 104 degrees. Once you see fluid start dripping at around 104 degrees, put the plug back in place, stop the engine and torque the plug to spec.
If no fluid came out at 110-115 degrees, you need to add some fluid. Reinstall the level check plug but don't make it too tight as it will be removed again. Stop the engine and let it cool to bring transmission temperature below 90 degrees. You will probably need to raise the vehicle to reach the fill plug. Open the fill plug and add about half a quart of fresh fluid. Reinstall the fill plug. Don't add more than a quart. Start the engine, run through gears and back to park, keep the engine running, remove the level check plug once the trans temperature gets above 90 degrees. Be careful not to burn your hands around the exhaust piping. Some fluid will come out. Let it drip until transmission temperature gets to 104 degrees. Once at 104 deg., reinstall the level drain plug, with a new gasket, and torque slightly. Stop the engine and tighten the plug to spec. That's it.

To drain and replace ATF fluid, you will first need to raise the vehicle so you can reach the fill plug on the transmission easier. Open the drain plug (rear) and drain the fluid. Measure the amount of fluid that came out. Reinstall the drain plug and tighten to spec. Use a new gasket if needed. Fill the transmission with the same amount of fresh fluid plus an additional 1/2 to 3/4 of a quart. Reinstall the fill plug and follow the same procedure as described above. It's very simple. The level check tube located above the level check plug will not allow you to overfill the transmission.
Some guys use an infrared thermometer to measure temperature of the transmission oil pan. Do this at very close range to get better results. Hope this helps.

Obviously, do this at your own risk. Take it to a dealer if you are not comfortable doing this yourself.
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I purchased a 2015 Tahoe LTZ. Beautiful truck but the ride was more like being in a covered wagon. Google rough ride tahoe and you will see what I mean. GM produced a TSB which was performed on my Tahoe. That cost GM about $3700.00 and it made absouletely no difference in the ride. After a few debates GM sent me a $3500.00 voucher toward the purchase of a new Chevrolet Tahoe. I had already spent close to $4000.00 of my money without any changes. PUrchased shock simulators to confuse the computer and make it think the Mag Ride shocks were still on the vehicle. I got so frustrated over the ride that I stopped by a Toyota dealer in Richmond, KY. on my way to meet my wife and some friends in Gatlingburg, TN. The dealer is a personnel friend and he offered me a great deal on a new Four Runner. I bought it and haven't regretted it. I will say the Tahoe is the best tow vehicle I have ever had but the ride was far too harsh and after so many others were complaining about the ride I saw no way out of the thing. I've installed a cold air intake, Borla cat back, and just ordered a tune.

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Looking forward to your writeup- I will probably be installing one this summer- and maybe some rear airbags for when I tow my camper.


I couldn’t find airbags for the 4R. I used Airlift for my Pathfinder. If ya sourced them pls let me know. Thx


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Installed the B&M trans cooler using the hardware and existing points on the AC rad and center support.
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Transmission Cooler

Alright so I just did this in my 2016 TP in preparation for towing soon. Here's the process I used
I used the B&M 70264 Amazon.com: B&M 70264 SuperCooler Automatic Transmission Cooler: Automotive

I also nabbed an additional length of 11/32 hose Amazon.com: Derale 13003 Transmission/Engine Oil Hose: Automotive (I probably didn't really need the second length but I didn't want to get into a situation where I needed more and didn't have it).

And a 2 pack of 3/8" male-male barb fittings Gasher 2 Pieces Brass Hose Barb Reducer, 3/8 Inch to 3/8 Inch Barb Hose ID with 4 Hose Clam, Brass Barb Reducer SPLICER Fitting Fuel/AIR/Water/Oil/Gas/WOG: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

Also needed is a couple hose clamps, a half-quart of Toyota WS ATF, and about 7 metric 6mmx1.0 about 1" long bolts/nuts/washers combos.

I used stock unused threaded holes for 3 mounting points.
1) Lower passenger side bolts directly to one of those holes and begins the fitment process.
2) drilled one tiny hole into the body brace for lower driver side hole and did a thru-bolt with nut. Be carefull since there's the A/C condenser close, but not bad at all.
3) The top passenger side strap wasn't long enough so I used 2 that came in the kit, stacked and staggered to make longer, thru-bolted together in 2 holes to prevent pivoting. Slight bend to change the plane for mounting. Thru-bolted to cooler, OEM hole in radiator support
4) OEM threaded hole for top drive side bracket, mark bracket and drill a hole in it to match cooler mount hole. Thru-bolt to cooler after drilling.



So I only had to drill one hole in the body brace, and one hole in one bracket that came with the kit. Didn't have to use any other previously used mounts for anything.

I didn't get a good picture becuase it was getting late but I loomed each hose with leftover 3/4" wire loom, ran it loosely up into an already foam-coated slot and then into a hole thru the radiator support above where the A/C hard line comes in.



I tapped into the lines up top only. I ran the truck for a long time the day before and used an infrared laser thermometer and verified the blue marked hose (the one with the offset bend) was about 15-20 degrees cooler. This was the driver side of radiator hose, and the flatter of the 2 lines from transmission in case anyone is curious.


So my new cooler lower hose looped down and back up to the pipe shown above. The 11/32 hose is extremely tight on the OEM metal hardline. Took quite a bit of power and wiggling to install it. But that means it's a great fit. The upper hose was attached right there using the male-male barb fitting to stock hose using a new clamp. This way I figure I could bypass and go back to OEM if needed.

I did this with truck ice cold. Lost ZERO fluid this way. I used a turkey baster to inject 1/2 quart of WS ATF VERY SLOWLY into the OEM hose before connecting to barb fitting to accommodate the slight increase in system volume. Very clean this way. Minimal spillage, and zero original fluid loss. Didn't check fluid level, probably won't. Since I didn't lose any, I figured I'm plenty safe. An ounce or 2 one way or the other cant be that detrimental. If anything it's probably a handful of ounces overfilled.

I'm gonna run some more checks using my laser thermometer the more I drive it to see how hot things get. Original temp was about 185 on hot side pipe up top, and 170 on the cooler one. Both hard lines from transmission were 200 so that wasn't a useful measurement in determining flow.
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I’ve been wanting to add a transmission cooler but I already have too much stuff in front of the condenser. I’m leaning towards installing one of these aluminum radiators by CSF to keep things cool with the increased capacity. My old 240Z would overheat all the time before I added a Mishimoto Aluminum radiator. Anyone install one these???

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I’ve been wanting to add a transmission cooler but I already have too much stuff in front of the condenser. I’m leaning towards installing one of these aluminum radiators by CSF to keep things cool with the increased capacity. My old 240Z would overheat all the time before I added a Mishimoto Aluminum radiator. Anyone install one these???



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Yes I installed one at the same time as my supercharger. I didn't notice an improvement so I still installed an aux cooler.

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