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Old 06-13-2021, 10:18 PM #196
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Don't expect a new V6, plus you're in for a very, very long wait and the days of 4Runner = 100% Nippon are over.
I hope to drive mine for another 15-20 years so I don't care too much. That said, there is always a chance it gets totaled, etc.

The 5th gen is close to perfect for me as is. The suspension is easily addressed via aftermarket parts as is protection. The rest is minor gripes.

To get a 6th gen if something happens to mine, I will want pretty much the same vehicle but with 35" tires and an engine that produces equivalent or better power; I don't really care how. A hybrid would be great though generally I don't like hybrids (I would rather have full EV or what I have now but I can live with a hybrid from Toyota).

Otherwise, I will not really need as big of a cabin in about 4 years so I could just get a high-end Bronco, assuming it is dependable on trail. Going the other way, I could get a Tesla if they make a mid-size Cybertruck and a ZR2 Bison could be considered (have not looked into their dependability).

Again, I would much rather have mine
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Please NO to the Tacoma redesign with the huge grill....just not a fan of grills that look like a giant bass fish.

Likes: doors and roof do NOT come off
Rear window rolls down
No tire on the back lift gate
Manual lift gate

please increase MPG, and update the interior....That’s it!

No exterior changes....stay different than Jeep’s and Broncos.
And don’t change the front.
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Don't expect a new V6, plus you're in for a very, very long wait and the days of 4Runner = 100% Nippon are over. If any of that bothers any of you, buy one within the next few years. The setbacks likely mean, don't expect a new model soon either.

I think they've already sorted out the fullsizers' powertrain choices, so next Sequoia isn't running late as much (understatement I know, but...). Midsize TNGA-F stuff, is just so disappointing because of new timing.

I'm hoping you got my PM?
Carmaker1, can you please send me a PM with the details? I've had the 2023 6th gen 4runner on the top of my new list for over a year. I finally decided to join the forum to try to get some more information.

I'm not sure why any news like delays or changes in powertrains are not more widely discussed? I'm a member of several car forums and it always seems like when everyone puts their piece of the puzzle forward the community benefits by figuring out more information.
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Swinging rear door rather than a lift gate.
Factory options for taller axle ratios.
Fix the body mount so they don't have to be cut.
Full length roof rack so we have mounting bolts up front.
Reroute the power steering lines to make more room in front of the radiator.
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I want BOF, SRA, and roughly the same size as the 5th gen. Keep the roll down rear glass. Yokoten the weight reduction strategies used on the LC300 frame and body.

For drivetrain, the T24A with plug-in hybrid capability would be ideal. Bump power capability to ~350hp and give me 40mi EV only range so I can commute on electric and still adventure on the weekends.
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I want to see body-on-frame, true 4WD LO, and a gasoline engine.
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Anything that contributes to efficiency so weight reduction or engine.
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This isn’t really what I’d like to see but I’m thinking the taco 3.5l v6 will be transplanted into the 6th gens and paired with an electric motor (phev). Those atkinsons engines are designed to be paired with e-motors so it makes sense. The new tacos may have that set up as well to solve the underpowered complaints (more power and better fuel economy)

Also, I just can’t see Toyota making a turbo (I4 or otherwise) as the base engine on the 4runner. Maybe on a Lexus but not a Toyota.
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Better rear visibility would be nice.
Interior ergonomics could be greatly improved.
More comfy seats.
Solve the rust issues.
Lots of wind tunnel testing but don't make it too swoopy or trendy looking. Better mpg's.
All the safety sense stuff but make much of it selectable.
3rd row seats that are easily removable.
Lever actuated 4x4, e-locker type setup.
Better roof rack mounting points built in.
Put the old Lexus GX-470 engineers on it to add some spice to it.
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I had a double post so edit-
Trim down the body some, less plastic. Function over form for a lot of the vehicle. Great stereo, nice hvac system, sound proofing. The tailgate opening up has been nice in the rain for me a few times. I'd sacrifice the lowering rear window for more rear visibility- give that area a look, a lot of plastic that could be traded out for more glass... flip up glass would be fine with me. I know that's a big no no for a lot of you. E-locker.
Turbo 4 hybrid, I guess I'm coming around to the idea because of the power and efficiency gains that could be had. Otherwise if they could develop a 6 cylinder package that gave 23 city 27 highway that would be good.
7 speed stick option with low crawl gear.

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Going the Jeep and Ford method, I would like to see a 2 and 4 door 4Runner platform, Gas or Diesel Options, and Removable Doors.
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Question When?

Are there any updates that come from sources other than unofficial clickbait YT channels and such?

It's already July 2021 and no word yet (AFAIK) when this 6th gen will appear. Apparently not in 2022, which is the 13th model year of the 5th gen. I've seen 2023 mentioned, but what is the source?

They're certainly taking their time. I wonder if this means a paradigm shift for the vehicle, or what?
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