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Old 11-10-2021, 09:12 PM #91
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Sorry I misspoke. 2023 year 2024 model year
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I just dont see why they cant just squeeze more power out of the current motor and maybe up the gearing on the transmission. If you look at all the twin turbo V6s on full size trucks, the mpg increase is so minimal, I would rather take the reliablity of the NA motor and suck it up on the economy aspect.

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I just dont see why they cant just squeeze more power out of the current motor and maybe up the gearing on the transmission. If you look at all the twin turbo V6s on full size trucks, the mpg increase is so minimal, I would rather take the reliablity of the NA motor and suck it up on the economy aspect.

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Cafe standards - there is a reason the V6 has been around so long. Toyota designed it for future standards. They most likely have to do it again, and without a gasoline after treatment system costing a lot of money, the standards for emissions are getting very tight.
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So the 2022 Land Cruiser has 3 engine choices. The 3.44 tt thatís going on the tundra, a turbo diesel with over 500 lb ft of torque and the 4.0 litre V6.
Why wouldnít Toyota put the Lexus 2.4 turbo in that is rumoured to be going in the 6th generation 4Runner?
The LC300 is a completely new build so it doesnít make sense. My hunch is the diesel and the 4.0 will be in 75%+ of LC which will allow it to maintain its most reliable vehicle in the world reputation.
Maybe Iím reading too much into it but if the 2.4 turbo is better than the 4.0 then why put an ancient engine in their redesigned flagship SUV?
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So the 2022 Land Cruiser has 3 engine choices. The 3.44 tt thatís going on the tundra, a turbo diesel with over 500 lb ft of torque and the 4.0 litre V6.
Why wouldnít Toyota put the Lexus 2.4 turbo in that is rumoured to be going in the 6th generation 4Runner?
The LC300 is a completely new build so it doesnít make sense. My hunch is the diesel and the 4.0 will be in 75%+ of LC which will allow it to maintain its most reliable vehicle in the world reputation.
Maybe Iím reading too much into it but if the 2.4 turbo is better than the 4.0 then why put an ancient engine in their redesigned flagship SUV?
I think the 4.0 has two big advantages - it's more reliable in the harshest conditions. And it's very cheap to manufacture, maintain, and repair. Many fewer parts. And there's a lot of parts availability globally. I don't think it's inherently better or worse, but probably just better for the specific markets.
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Disappointing to hear that the 2.4 Turbo 4 might be the only option.

Like a lot of others commenting online in various areas, this engine choice is a non-starter for me and I think we'll see in the coming years that big, heavy SUVs with turbo fours do not mix.

I don't take my current T4R off road but I do tow so a six cylinder is a must.

Give me a hybrid six, a turbo six, a NA six, a twin turbo six. Hell, I'd be happy with the six from the X5.

And buying a 2022 4Runner or earlier model doesn't seem smart from a MPG standpoint as it's become clear gas prices clearly depend on who's in the White House.
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Everyone complains about the T4R power plant. Under powered and horrible MPGs and I couldn't agree more. Now Toyota is down another notch with the new Bronco Eco Boost option, which is a strong motor and much better MPGs.

Since Toyota can't make a decent engine and get decent MPGs they will have to go to a Hybrid option. They could be looking at the GS450H drive train (3.5-liter V6 Hybrid) with 31 MPG. Put that in the box of a 4runner and maybe get 25?

A hybrid off road would be pretty cool. Lot's of torque and quiet so you don't scary the hikers. ;)
I didn't buy a T4R for gas mileage, hell my 2008 Toyota Tacoma has the SAME engine... I think N/A is more reliable than a turbo motor, so I'd take a v8/v6 over a turbo 4c/hybrid any day.
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Since the 4.0l 1GR-FE v6 is still alive and well, the classic Toyota way is to slap in an 8-speed to bump up the mpg, throw in a few $$ to to MSRP, and call it all-new..
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We currently have a 17 Acura MDX AWD with the V6, with the cylinder deactivation. Decent power, smooth, has been 100% trouble freeÖAND despite its large size and AWD it gets about 27 MPG on the highway if I keep it about 70 mph or so. Iíve always wondered why more companies donít use this technology? Itís a great engine.

Iím currently trying to hold out for a redesigned 4Runner but it doesnít seem like thereís even any official confirmation that the redesign is coming for the 23 modelÖand a 4 cyl would be a no-go for me.
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We currently have a 17 Acura MDX AWD with the V6, with the cylinder deactivation. Decent power, smooth, has been 100% trouble freeÖAND despite its large size and AWD it gets about 27 MPG on the highway if I keep it about 70 mph or so. Iíve always wondered why more companies donít use this technology? Itís a great engine.

Iím currently trying to hold out for a redesigned 4Runner but it doesnít seem like thereís even any official confirmation that the redesign is coming for the 23 modelÖand a 4 cyl would be a no-go for me.
I had a V6 Accord with the same tech, it would get 36-38 mpg on the highway but you have to replace the timing belt every 100,000 miles.
It seems like the 2.4 litre turbo is a foregone conclusion so I wouldn't wait for the 6th gen runner.

I'd be very happy with a front end redesign and an 8 sp auto. Make it look more like the LC300. Oh, and a heated steering wheel!
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So the 2022 Land Cruiser has 3 engine choices. The 3.44 tt that’s going on the tundra, a turbo diesel with over 500 lb ft of torque and the 4.0 litre V6.
Why wouldn’t Toyota put the Lexus 2.4 turbo in that is rumoured to be going in the 6th generation 4Runner?
The LC300 is a completely new build so it doesn’t make sense. My hunch is the diesel and the 4.0 will be in 75%+ of LC which will allow it to maintain its most reliable vehicle in the world reputation.
Maybe I’m reading too much into it but if the 2.4 turbo is better than the 4.0 then why put an ancient engine in their redesigned flagship SUV?
Because people out here in the Middle East are already overheating the LC300 3.5TT in the dunes... poor 2.4 wouldn't stand a chance

There's a reason why the safari tour lc200's in Dubai all run the 6mt 4.0.. lightest trim and that thing can take a beating
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I'm coming from the V8 4 Runner and currently have the Macan GTS.
Was really hoping for a V6 Turbo to come back to the 4Runner, I wonder what they'll put in the Lexus GX, maybe that will be an option.

I don't see me embracing a turbo 4.
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I'm coming from the V8 4 Runner and currently have the Macan GTS.
Was really hoping for a V6 Turbo to come back to the 4Runner, I wonder what they'll put in the Lexus GX, maybe that will be an option.

I don't see me embracing a turbo 4.
Maybe the detuned 3.44 tt that is in the Tundra SR? About 340 HP that way there's a separation between the GX and LX. The 4runner TRD Pro might see a better engine than the rest but given Toyota's boring nature I'm betting on the 2.4 turbo for all 4runners and a hybrid GX.
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I had a V6 Accord with the same tech, it would get 36-38 mpg on the highway but you have to replace the timing belt every 100,000 miles.
It seems like the 2.4 litre turbo is a foregone conclusion so I wouldn't wait for the 6th gen runner.

I'd be very happy with a front end redesign and an 8 sp auto. Make it look more like the LC300. Oh, and a heated steering wheel!
There has not been any official confirmation from Toyota on the motor, or anything at this point. Itís far from a ďforegone conclusion.Ē Iím not ready to give up!
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If Toyota can reduce the weight of the 4Runner when it moves to TNGA-F, that may help — especially if they add a hybrid option and any weight loss is able to offset the battery.

If you asked me 7 years ago when I bought my 4Runner if I’d ever consider a 4-cylinder engine, I would have laughed. Now, I’m probably only going to consider a 6th-gen 4Runner if it’s available as a hybrid or PHEV. Granted, I’m probably not the typical 4Runner owner, and my priorities are different, so YMMV of course.
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