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Old 02-23-2021, 08:15 PM #16
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Bought my 2021 as I am skeptical about the 6th gen.
Plus, first years = lots of kinks to work out.
I understand the general and historic auto industry logic behind that, but "lots of kinks?" Unless Toyota decides to introduce entirely new and unproven tech in the 6th gen (which I doubt) I would not be concerned about kinks. I have a 2010 (first year of the 5th Gen) and it has been fantastic and I think that is the prevailing sentiment with the early 5th gens on this forum.
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Itís hard to give advice since everyone has different priorities and resources. But I wouldnít replace a 2014 5th gen with under 100K miles with another 5th gen, especially with a redesign on the near horizon. Unless youíre worried about the 6th gen being a disappointment. Iíd at least wait to see what the 6th gens look like. If Toyota screws up with the 6th gen, you can always pick up a used 5th gen Limited down the road.


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Just test drive one and form your own opinion. I personally think itís a considerable upgrade in many ways.

If fuel economy is a concern, I wouldn't even own a 4Runner, but for the purpose of this comparison it's about the same to me.

In other markets it is called the Land Cruiser Prado, but it has a ton in common with the 4Runner. The older GX 470 was very similar to the 4th gen 4Runner in that even parts like suspension, sliders, dual battery kit, were all interchangeable parts. GX 460 got even more bougie.

Compared to the 4Runner it has a similar size, shape, and capability. Still a body on frame 4x4 SUV, just wearing a tuxedo.

Styling has grown on me significantly over the years, but I had the same opinion as you at one point in time as well. To a degree I still consider the 4Runner a better looking truck, but to be honest I donít really care about that stuff. I just want a nice truck that has more refined amenities, materials, and trim.

The Lexus V8 is super smooth with a nice quiet cabin. It's just a better driving SUV overall.
I was in the Emirates from 1998 to 2004 and had a Prado 4L V6 from 2000 to 2004. Fantastic vehicle. Put 120,000K on it and took it to the desert and beat it up on camping trips every weekend. Only needed oil changes. Wanted to bring it back to Canada but the importation process scared me off. The Lexus GX series look just like them. I almost bought one but couldn't swallow the price premium over the 4runner which is a great vehicle.
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There has been a lot of upgrades to the 5th model to model since 2010. Follow your heart I doubt you will have any regrets.
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This "lots of kinks to work out" is utter crap. Aside from other model year vehicles that had zero issues, I also had a 2010 Limited and it was flawless. Toyota starts development 5+ years before they launch a vehicle. No need to worry about "kinks" - that said, TSB do get ironed out over time - but not to the extend someone shouldn't buy vehicle in its first year.

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Bought my 2021 as I am skeptical about the 6th gen.
Plus, first years = lots of kinks to work out.
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This "lots of kinks to work out" is utter crap. Aside from other model year vehicles that had zero issues, I also had a 2010 Limited and it was flawless. Toyota starts development 5+ years before they launch a vehicle. No need to worry about "kinks" - that said, TSB do get ironed out over time - but not to the extend someone shouldn't buy vehicle in its first year.
For the most part when considering Toyotas, I agree. Even less iterative than your 2010, my 2003 Limited, first year 4th gen, was trouble free through 110,000 miles until I trade it in for a Tundra.
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Just picked up a '21 TRD ORP. I absolutely love it but wish I at least tested the Lexus GX.

I know this isn't your market but once you throw on bigger tires, a lift kit, and some weight (extra passengers, roof rack, tent, etc.) both the "engine performance" and gas mileage plummet. You may not see the drop off of MPG switching to the GX even though it has the V8 because you won't need to drive it as aggressively to merge, drive up hill, etc. especially with your family and added weight in the vehicle.

The one thing EPA ratings don't tell you is that slower engines likely mean you'll be trying harder to keep the vehicle going which will decrease your real world MPGs.

IMO - Try the Lexus...if you're not sold then pick up a '21 limited. They're still fantastic.
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They say GX v8 has very similar fuel economy to 4R v6?
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I understand the general and historic auto industry logic behind that, but "lots of kinks?" Unless Toyota decides to introduce entirely new and unproven tech in the 6th gen (which I doubt) I would not be concerned about kinks. I have a 2010 (first year of the 5th Gen) and it has been fantastic and I think that is the prevailing sentiment with the early 5th gens on this forum.
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This "lots of kinks to work out" is utter crap. Aside from other model year vehicles that had zero issues, I also had a 2010 Limited and it was flawless. Toyota starts development 5+ years before they launch a vehicle. No need to worry about "kinks" - that said, TSB do get ironed out over time - but not to the extend someone shouldn't buy vehicle in its first year.
Y'all lose access to the internet when the new 3rd Gen Tacos were having problems not too long ago?

That said, the problems were mostly fixed quickly.

My main issue with brand-new generations is that they are always missing lots of normal amenities. They get added over the next few years as next-model-year "upgrades".
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I haven't yet owned a 4Runner but I'm doing extensive research on all things T4R in preparation to buy one. I've been mentally wrestling with this idea of 5th Gen vs all the hypotheticals in the 6th Gen. I would agree with the sentiment of first model years having a lot of issues to work out.

The way I see it, the 5th Gens have had 12 years of working kinks out!
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I had the same opinion as you at one point in time as well. To a degree I still consider the 4Runner a better looking truck, but to be honest I don’t really care about that stuff. I just want a nice truck that has more refined amenities, materials, and trim. clicker games

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I upgraded to a 2021 TRD Offroad Premium, KDSS, Moonroof. Inventory was getting sparse in Northern Virginia so didn't want to miss it. Had more than one dealer say they would only accept MSRP and I managed to purchase at invoice plus $3K. It was about going home with the 4Runner I wanted as I had been window shopping for 4 years and knew this was the model and features I wanted. Keeping my faithful 2002 SR5 as well.
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Bought my 2021 as I am skeptical about the 6th gen.
Plus, first years = lots of kinks to work out.
People seem to look past that fact. That is why i bought a 2021 4 Runner after never even owning a Toyota. The truck is proven. My Goldwing is the same deal Honda kept the same basic bike for 16yrs because they couldn't improve on it.
With the Wing it took 4 Model years to work out problems of a Radical redesign from the 1500cc to 1800cc. The new 4 Runner will most likely have a small high HP turbocharged engine. Probably the end of the 300,000 mile 4runner. Toyota discontinuing Land Cruiser tells u 4Runner is taking its place in position and $$.
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New guy here, considering a new ORP...

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The new 4 Runner will most likely have a small high HP turbocharged engine. Probably the end of the 300,000 mile 4runner. Toyota discontinuing Land Cruiser tells u 4Runner is taking its place in position and $$.
Interesting take on the LC position - I wouldn't want to pay much more than current so something to think about.

I'm not too concerned about a new motor if the fuel economy benefit is there, fuel consumption being the main con for me with buying a gen5 now. First tho, I'm waiting to see if we're going to need to use this new vehicle for commuting once/if work ever goes back to normal so could still order a '22 or '23.

Some are reporting ~25mpg combined with the Bronco Sport vs I'm thinking maybe ~15 or less with a current 4Runner. Different animals of course but closer to that sure would be nice !

Anyway, just browsing the forums and percolating. I bought a new 4Runner back in '86 and wouldn't mind another for the capability but reality is I'm not gonna go 'wheeling every weekend and I sure ain't 21 no more.
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I, too, bought a '21 ORP because I was worried about what the next gen would be. I'd rather buy an end-of-life model than a new model/iteration and deal with all the headaches.
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