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Old 01-08-2021, 01:01 PM #1
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Possible I4Turbo for next 4Runner

Take this with a grain of salt, but what Kirk says is plausible. Cool channel if you are into Toyota/Lexus/SomeKorean cars.





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"Almost " anything is possible and that's as good a guess as any.
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Again, sorry for not being able to embed the video, but he does go into the possibility of a hybrid option. I know that will make everyone have a canary here, but since Toyota is "hybrid horny", that could very well happen. I wouldn't mind. Hell, I'm even considering getting a Hybrid RAV4 (fell out of love with the CRV). I'm in sales lately and drive a ton. My DD (07 Civic has about 300K on the click) get me about 34mpg (my 4R doesn't, LOL). What's keeping me from totally going for the hybrid is long term costs. Love knowing how to fix my Civic and 4R b/c of "simple tech" (no direct injection crap, CVT nonsense, turbos that may blow up the engine in 100K, etc etc.) No, I don't hate those technologies, I would embrace them for my next new car, but grudgingly so.
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Kirk is a dingbat who reads internet forum rumors and turns them into YouTube videos like he has "sources."

With that said, I think turbo4 is correct.
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I'm not defending the guy, but he does cite his sources (sites I wouldn't otherwise never hear of or go to.). Yes, it's mostly speculation, but he tries to back up his words with some logic. He basically gets his information and makes into a conversation (youtube). That is fine by me. I'd rather listen to what he has to say rather than folks (not you Gecko) who don't have a clue. Yes, sucks to hear that a possible I-4 turbo is coming, but it does make total sense. Kirks latest video talks about Lexus and how they hint about staying with the TNGAf platform (body on frame) and making off road variants of the GX/LX. There is a market for luxo-"trucks", so there's that. Lexus is a mess now (lexus pseudo fan boy here), so they need to get out of their slump by going into markets they wouldn't otherwise go. We lost the Land Cruiser, but the next gen will be here in the form of the LX............... i'm rambling....... future info of the next gen 4Runner should be leaking in the next year. Everyone knows it will happen.
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Yes, sucks to hear that a possible I-4 turbo is coming
Why?

Better power, better tq, more tq lower in the rev band, better economy, probably runs on regular gas.
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Better power, better tq, more tq lower in the rev band, better economy, probably runs on regular gas.
My concern is longevity where a turbo is concerned. That would be my “why”.
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Better power, better tq, more tq lower in the rev band, better economy, probably runs on regular gas.
Yes, absolutely. However most of our concerns are long term reliability. Then again, when Toyota 1st gen 4Runner came out, there was an optional I-4Turbo that supposedly ran forever.

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My concern is longevity where a turbo is concerned. That would be my “why”.
Yup, I had Surfs back in the day and would enjoy the boost. I never abused my rides, but I can see folks "taking advantage of it" thus shortening the life of the turbine and engine.

Toyota hasn't jumped on the turbo bandwagon just yet, but they are beginning. (Lexus LS turbo V6, NX turbo engine) Let's hope they make them robust enough that reliability is that of their NA engines.

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Yes, absolutely. However most of our concerns are long term reliability. Then again, when Toyota 1st gen 4Runner came out, there was an optional I-4Turbo that supposedly ran forever.



Yup, I had Surfs back in the day and would enjoy the boost. I never abused my rides, but I can see folks "taking advantage of it" thus shortening the life of the turbine and engine.

Toyota hasn't jumped on the turbo bandwagon just yet, but they are beginning. (Lexus LS turbo V6, NX turbo engine) Let's hope they make them robust enough that reliability is that of their NA engines.

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I'm thinking that, long-term, they'll rely more on the added power coming from a hybrid platform. Better longevity from an added motor versus a turbo, and probably acceptable power increase for most folks (Rav4 Prime). Just my thoughts.
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I tried embedding the same youtube video that works on another page into this page and it wont work. Too weird.
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I tried embedding the same youtube video that works on another page into this page and it wont work. Too weird.
Just as weird as posting in a "6th gen section", LOL. I've tried everything, I gave up trying to embed it.
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