Thanks, lol. I had Sequoia written first and then changed it to Tundra after a brain freeze. The Sequoia is even more telling since it is a fellow SUV.

Yes, this makes sense. Pro and Limited will get the hybrid and jump 20%. The OR and SR5 will be 2.4 turbo and go up a few grand like most redesigns. Probably the same with the Tacoma's trim levels.

Agreed I think it’s more telling, especially with the two factors of its removal (at least that were disclosed to us) being:

1) aluminum tailgate
2) didn’t fit in with the design CALTY wanted.

I think Tundra and 4Runner owners enjoy it more than the Sequoia owners, but I’ve never read Sequoia forums lol.

Sweers said they kept it in the Tundra since people love it.

Who knows what’ll happen lol. Gotta keep waiting sadly

Toyota has trade marked "Land Cruiser and variants" for 2024MY.

There was a big thread on mud about it. LC and "Trail Hunter" both were listed as new MY trademarks.

ETA: I'd be thrilled if we got the new Prado as the 6th gen as long as the MTS and locker are there like in AU.

I thought the Lexus GX is the Land Cruiser Prado...

Since the 4th gen, the 4Runner has shared the GX/Prado platform. Given everything moving to TNGA-F, the resemblance should continue. I'm guessing with the modularity of the F platform it would be the Tacoma, 4Runner, Hilux, Prado all being the "smaller" variant of the F platform; whereas the Sequoia, Tundra, Land Cruiser, and LX 600 are all on the "bigger" variant.

OK. I was responding to Finslayer83's wish to get the Prado as the 6th gen. That won't happen since the Prado is already sold in the US under the Lexus name.

I do agree that the 4Runner will continue to be a less expensive cousin of the GX thanks to the common platform.

Yes, but everything is going to the TNGA-F platform.

Something will be consolidated.

There's no consolidation needed. It's already one vehicle, called the Prado in Europe/Asia and the Lexus GX in North America. The name is just marketing.

Will Toyota consolidate the name? I dunno...

The 2023 is the same. New color orange also called Solar Octane. let the next thread of speculation begin.

Steven Welch, a Toyota salesman from Nashville and Youtuber, is saying the 4Runner is delayed until 2025.

Toyota major changes coming - YouTube

He was the first person on YouTube to show all of the Tundra options and pricing last year. I'm surprised he kept his job since he scooped everyone. He is saying this info comes from things he knows so it appears he is spilling the beans so to speak.
Says the Tacoma will keep the 3.5 V6 add the 2.5 hybrid with increased power and then third option will be full electric.
4Runner will get 2.4 turbo plus hybrid and the Land Cruiser is coming back to the US next fall as a 2024 MY. He says this is the main reason for delaying the 4Runner until 2025, Toyota doesn't want to have both of those competing in anyway.
The new Toyota truck that will compete with the Maverick will be built on the Rav4 chasis.

There was some speculation on MY2025 being the 6th gen debut a while back. Makes me wonder what final little goodies Toyota will throw on the MY2024 as a goodbye gift (some MY2023 trims got a surprise heated steering wheel apparently.)

The Land Cruiser coming back good news. Such an iconic nameplate...

I might sell my '22 for a '24. I wanted a heated steering wheel. It would be nice having the last MY of this generation. A better head unit would be nice.

lol, I agree having the last MY of the generation would be cool. I waited for the '23 (assuming it was the last of its kind) for that very reason. I don't think the head unit would be in play but dual climate control for lower trims? JBL 15 speaker as an option for lower trims? Things that already exist but are trim specific...

If it were actually confirmed that MY24 was still a 5th gen, I would consider cancelling my order and waiting until next summer.

Link is private now?