I may have missed something while exploring dirt in the Canadian Rockies (no real 4x4 trails that I came across). But was anything said about expected features of the Prado-based USDM Land Cruiser?

Like what front wheel travel could be reasonably expected? The new Tacoma is like 11.5"; I would be surprised if the new LC comes anywhere close to that.

What about tire sizes?

What about cargo area relative to the 4R?

I guess these would be the most interesting things to me

I prefer to buy the last model year of a generation.

It has NOTHING to do with a manufacturer working out bugs. (It never worked for Land Rover, did it?)

There’s always some sort of last hurrah, or at the very least you get one with the most features.

Just between my 2021 and 2023, I missed out on:

- Blind spot monitoring
- 360 camera
- Heated steering wheel


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I wouldn't be surprised if I end up in a 6th gen one day, I'm excited to see what they do. That said, I bought a 2023 ORP, so it won't be until at least the third model year of the new generation, maybe fifth. I'll want to see that the new truck is totally dependable if I'm gonna give up one that's completely known to be totally dependable. I don't think Toyota will screw it up, but I'll still give them some years to polish it. I'm reminded of such early adopter issues as the first batch of 2022 Tundras with the junk turbos from the junk supplier. I certainly don't need to be the first kid on the block with the new toy!

I think it will look great given what they did with the Tacoma. I am open to getting one once the kinks are worked out.

Being a old guy (78) and thinking about this vehicle being my last purchase for a new vehicle and this is probably because I will only be driving it some 3-4000 miles per year. For me I'm thinking the 2024 old style 4 Runner would be the better choice, as it is a proven vehicle over the years and I'm not really interested in a Turbo power engine, or a Hybrid. Better fuel mileage doesn't inter in here, just long-time reliability. The model I like is the TRD Off Road and if it does not have the Premium option that will be ok with me, as long as it has AppleCarPlay I'm good to go.

I had similar thinking back in 2022 when we bought our new ORP. Now that I see where they went with the Sequoia, I'm glad we did! Always having a dog, the roll down rear window has always been important. Cargo area in our 4Runner is not exactly generous, so if they eat into it on the 6th Gen for the hybrid system, it would certainly be Game Over when combined with the loss of the rear window.
Would I like a little more power and couple extra gears? Sure, but not as important as those other things, and don't find the 5th Gen THAT much underpowered, especially coming from a 3rgd Gen.
I would opt for the Premium as we did. The Softec seats are easy to clean, are heated, and you get the Autodimming rear view mirror, heated mirrors with turn signal.

Some people are just new " look at me" freaks.
New I phone new model year gotta be the first..
I learned my lesson when I bought the new and improved Corvette C7 then 2 years later they came out with the C8 for $7k more . I would have easily waited .

I didn't read all the post on this topic as I feel it wouldn't apply to me. I just purchased a new 2024 TRD Off Road because of its past history on a vehicle that would work for me. At 78 I wanted a vehicle that would be the last vehicle I might buy and "Old School" would work for me. I don't want a Turbo, or a Hybrid are probably my first reasons for not wanting a 6th generation vehicle. Other reason are it being a new vehicle and I would rather buy one the second year of production, thus many of the first year production problems will have been sorted out by then.

Who says I'm waiting. I'm not. I'm happy with my '18. At my age, it will go to one of my great-grandchildren, who's father has my '02 Tacoma TRD, and it will outlast me.

I already bought a new truck so I'm not jumping on the 6th gens immediately. If they get good reviews I might trade in later down the line...

I had a 4th Gen V8 4Runner for 13 years. I’ve had a 2013 200 for about 7 years. I respect the reliability of the 5th Gen 4Runner and it is the right size for me. But having test driven the 2016 three times, I have to say that I hated that drivetrain. I found the 4.0 V6 to have little low-end torque and its noise was coarse when pushed. Yes, I realize that 0-60 with the 4.0 is similar to the 0-60 of my old 4.7. But that old 4.7 was a very relaxed experience when driving, due to its smoothness and low end torque.

So, no, the 5th Gen isn’t a vehicle that I want. I also test drove the 2016 GX. That had a smoother powertrain, but was still low on low end torque. The larger concerns for me were the barn door (which I dislike), the poor visibility to the rear three quarters and straight back, the poor cargo room due to the built in third row, and an uncomfortable seat bottom cushion (which felt like it was digging into my thighs). I also hate the spindle grille. So the GX 460 is not an alternative for me.

I will be looking at the 250/GX550. I do wish Toyota had kept them closer in size to the 4Runner/GX460. Instead, they are almost identical in size to the 200. I am concerned about first year issues. I’m sure Toyota will get reliability sorted out, but the first year could have issues. I also wonder how the 6th Gen 4Runner will fit into the model lineup, if it is also built on TNGA-F. I will probably get a new vehicle before the 6th Gen is released.

Made in the USA
enough said……
I own a ‘22 sienna also (don’t tell me apples to oranges) and the build quality of my ‘12 4Runner (made in Japan) is vastly superior than the Sienna that’s made in Indiana

I compared a 24 Tacoma Sport next to a 24 4Runner TRD Off-road today at the dealership. I think I prefer the old interior of the 4R to the new Tacoma and the quality of the 4R seems much better.

I think the styling has a lot to do with my preference of the 4Runner interior to the new Tacoma interior. Everything is just so big and blocky and IM A REAL TRUCK from a styling perspective. I hope that things are toned down a little bit when the 4Runner comes out. Honestly, if the interior is straight carryover, I'll be really tempted to go Land Cruiser.

I know, weird take from a guy with a bright orange 4Runner. haha

I think the Gen 5 models will not drop in value that soon, if they even do, as their production numbers are high as well as their quality and longevity of the model. All you have to do is look at the value of the older Toyota's Land Cruisers, Toyota FJ's, and the Lexus models that are built from the same, or similar model, GX 460, etc. All these vehicles have very high resale values and buyers of the Toyota and Lexus models buy because of this and quality of the built probably being the number one reason. I know for myself this was my reason for buying a new 2024 TRD Off Road, first the new Gen 6 model was not to my liking, the body looks great, but did not want the new 4 cylinder engine with a Turbo, fuel mileage is not a concern to me and all the updates to the electronics, radio, etc. are not needed for this older guy, plus this 2024 is all I need. Now Toyota adding another vehicle, the new Land Cruiser to this market and with the cost of new vehicles today, I feel your Gen 5 will become even a better buy, as the new models are going to be a good step up in price and many will not be able to pay for those higher priced vehicles. Once again, 4 Runner buyers and owners are not your average buyer of a 4 wheel drive vehicle, I would think they are more upscale, spend their money wisely, and understand the value of a good product. Oh, by the way, I will never off road my new 4 Runner, I just purchased it because I like the vehicle and I feel a good way to spend my money for this old guy.