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Old 01-22-2024, 02:40 PM #16
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The Grand Highlander is a neat case where they offer the 2.5 hybrid (mid 30s gas mileage, low 8 0-60), 2.4T (high 20s gas mileage, low 8 0-60), and 2.4T hybrid (high 20s gas mileage, mid 5s to 60).
I dont believe that GH is going to see mid-30s with the 2.5 hybrid. We have that engine in our Rav4 and only see low mid-30s (34-35).
The GH weighs a good bit more.
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I dont believe that GH is going to see mid-30s with the 2.5 hybrid. We have that engine in our Rav4 and only see low mid-30s (34-35).
The GH weighs a good bit more.
I pretty consistently get 38-40mpg when I have the company rav4. I pull 35-37 in the company Sienna. I don’t think 33-34 is out of the question on a GH.
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Do you have a higher mix of highway miles? We're mostly city.

And we may have a heavier foot.
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Do you have a higher mix of highway miles? We're mostly city.

And we may have a heavier foot.
Just throwing it out there, but doesn't a naturally aspirated engine lose a non-trivial amount of power (something like 2 to 3 percent) for each 1000 feet above sea level?

This would suggest a NA vehicle being driven in the Denver area would probably be down on power by at least 10 to 15%. That could easily explain a loss of 5 to 10 percent gas mileage.
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Do you have a higher mix of highway miles? We're mostly city.

And we may have a heavier foot.
That’s freeway at ~1000ft elevation (rolling hills through WV, KY, TN). I drive the speed limit and use radar cruise control.
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With all the dead Tesla's reported around the country in the extreme cold this past week, we've been near zero here in North Texas, with the wind chill down to -5, now I'm wondering how wise a hybrid or plugin hybrid really is? Their batteries are going to be rapidly drained, just like EV's, in the extreme cold. Of course, the gas engine will help, but it will have limited battery power assistance, potentially.

So @Jetboy and others, who know the ins and outs of the hybrid characteristics, what are your thoughts?

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I own a model Y in Minnesota. While it loses some range in the cold, the cold otherwise doesn't hurt it at all. In fact it handles the snow impressively well. I actually prefer to drive in the winter over my T4R because of how fast it heats up.
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If you watch videos on the Tundra hybrid you'll actually see the state of charge increase and decrease as the batteries get charged under steady state towing and then release that energy when more power is required.
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