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Originally Posted by M1911
2023 4Runner 270 hp @ 5600 rpm, 278 lb-ft at 4400 rpm
2025 hybrid will have 326 hp and 465 lb-ft, both at far lower rpm than the 4.0.
The only good thing about the previous powertrain was its reliability. The 4.0 gets horrible fuel economy, worse than most full-size pickups. The 4.0 has poor low-end torque. The 4.0 has to be wound up to high rpm to make power and that engine has terrible noise, vibration, and harshness.
I have been strongly criticizing the 2023 drivetrain, which a Toyota representative would not do.
Toyota is not switching to EV everything — you are just changing the topic and throwing out an objection hoping that something will stick to the wall.
Test drive the new powertrain before you declare it to be terrible. Your local dealer probably has a 2024 Tacoma in stock. Go drive one.
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While this thread is getting spicy Id like to join in on the fun and point out that you are a clueless old head and hypocrite.
In the other 6th gen threads you says reliability and a quiet drive are the most important features of a car. The 4.0 is both. Why criticize the 2023 drivetrain? Its only been around for 20 years. There are a few million of these motors on the road with happy owners. You just want to hear your own whining in the echo chamber that is this forum.
Complaining about mpg when you drive a V8 landcruiser and had a V8 4Runner
Toyota and all other US auto manufactures are required to sell a certain number of EVs by 2030 / 2032 because of Biden's EV mandates. It was established as high as 50% of all new vehicles but has since been reduced. So yes Toyota and all others are being forced to switch to a large percentage of hybrid and EV or pay massive penalties.
Forcing a hybrid into the high end offroad trims is a mistake and will deter the actual offroad users but please tell us more about how great this new platform may or may not be. You likely havent driven the new hyrbid and definitely haven't driven it in 4runner. You don't own a 4.0 either because you obviously have no idea how they drive.
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