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Old 06-16-2024, 02:46 PM #1
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6th gen OR/ORP Lifted?

Wondering if anyone caught any information on whether the Off Road models will come with some kind of lift and 33" tires?

Also, will the lifted models fit 34" tires without mods?
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I think they are basically all the same spec as the comparable Tacoma. So they'll probably share the same tires and size. It looks like the TRD OR non-hybrid comes with 265/70/17 and TRD OR hybrid has 265/70/18. So - 31.5" tires on non-hybrid and 32.5" tires on hybrid models. Unless I misread the specs.

The LC250 is the same vehicle I think. So - it should fit 34s as a bolt on with no changes. up to 37's with very minor modification. Have not yet seen how well 40's fit, but they may even be a possibility without major body work. Huge change from the 5th gen in that regard.

Spare tire location on the LC250 seems to max out at a 34" tire without deflating or doing something else for fitment.
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I think they are basically all the same spec as the comparable Tacoma. So they'll probably share the same tires and size. It looks like the TRD OR non-hybrid comes with 265/70/17 and TRD OR hybrid has 265/70/18. So - 31.5" tires on non-hybrid and 32.5" tires on hybrid models. Unless I misread the specs.

The LC250 is the same vehicle I think. So - it should fit 34s as a bolt on with no changes. up to 37's with very minor modification. Have not yet seen how well 40's fit, but they may even be a possibility without major body work. Huge change from the 5th gen in that regard.

Spare tire location on the LC250 seems to max out at a 34" tire without deflating or doing something else for fitment.
They really jump the tire size on the 6G just because of hybrid? That's strange, but it tracks with the LC250 being hybrid standard and coming on 265/70R18.

At the least, it sounds like a bone stock non-hybrid 6G will properly clear 32.5's or really any smaller 33" stock, so that's nice. Wranglers and Broncos have been doing that for a while now, and 2023 Tacoma TRD PROs looked weird riding on 30.6" tires factory.

I just wish this increased tire fitment didn't somehow also come with lower departure angle. Is a 6G on 32.5/33.0" going to wheel any better than a 5G that went up an inch on tire size and is otherwise stock?
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They really jump the tire size on the 6G just because of hybrid? That's strange, but it tracks with the LC250 being hybrid standard and coming on 265/70R18.

At the least, it sounds like a bone stock non-hybrid 6G will properly clear 32.5's or really any smaller 33" stock, so that's nice. Wranglers and Broncos have been doing that for a while now, and 2023 Tacoma TRD PROs looked weird riding on 30.6" tires factory.

I just wish this increased tire fitment didn't somehow also come with lower departure angle. Is a 6G on 32.5/33.0" going to wheel any better than a 5G that went up an inch on tire size and is otherwise stock?
I'm not sure how it'll compare on clearance or angles. Might be worse. What is still a bit shocking to me is that the LC250, which is damn near the same thing as the 4Runner, is 5,600 lbs. That's wild. It's heavier than every domestic half ton crew cab 4x4 truck I see except the Raptor and the TRX. Even the Tundra Limited 4x4 Crewmax Short bed is only 5,490lbs. How is the LC250 heavier than a Tundra? And it's only 200lbs shy of a Raptor. It's even heavier than a diesel HMMWV. It will need 37's for all that weight.

I'm not totally sure how the options work out. I looked at the spec sheet and it only shows 265/70/17 on the TRD OR hybrid. So I think I was wrong. The tacoma forum is where I saw that the larger tire came on the hybrid. I think it was one of the early misprints.
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I'm not sure how it'll compare on clearance or angles. Might be worse. What is still a bit shocking to me is that the LC250, which is damn near the same thing as the 4Runner, is 5,600 lbs. That's wild. It's heavier than every domestic half ton crew cab 4x4 truck I see except the Raptor and the TRX. Even the Tundra Limited 4x4 Crewmax Short bed is only 5,490lbs. How is the LC250 heavier than a Tundra? And it's only 200lbs shy of a Raptor. It's even heavier than a diesel HMMWV. It will need 37's for all that weight.

I'm not totally sure how the options work out. I looked at the spec sheet and it only shows 265/70/17 on the TRD OR hybrid. So I think I was wrong. The tacoma forum is where I saw that the larger tire came on the hybrid. I think it was one of the early misprints.
I hope that 5600 lbs is wrong. I'm seeing two sources posting 5,038 lbs, but nothing from Toyota directly. According to Ford, a 2024 F-150 V8 supercrew 4x4 platinum weighs 5,122 lbs.

2024 4Runner is 26 degree departure angle, and 2025 4Runner is 24 degree departure angle (not stated what trim, all the worse if that's the Pro/Trailhunter trim number). Shame to see numbers go down. Maybe my 5th gen on 32.5" tires will have a better departure angle than any factory 6th gen. In my pipe dream world, they could've increased tire size and all angles without increasing any lengths, but of course a zillion competing interests went into the designs.
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I use a cheap hitch protector in the hitch and that has saved the rear bumper several times. The breakover angle is the worst of the 4R angles. I am glad I have the full underbody 3/16.

The main point for me about the 6th vs 5th offroading is context.

2010: 4Runner killed it with 32" tires (you can get full 32" in 265 70 17 like mine), all the offroad tech, superb adventure design and reliability.
Nissan X-terra Pro-4X pretty much the same capability but less nice, smaller, and with some reliability issues with early models
JK Rubicon pre the powertrain upgrade was a toy and that is putting it mildly. And was a toy only later as well, though a better one. Still a joke outside of difficult 4x4 trails where it ruled.

2025: where do we begin? Surely, a 4Runner on 33" and moderate angles and a complex powertrain that is not exactly crazy efficient has a long ways to prove itself.

Finally, now there are plenty of used 5th gen TRD-OR available to serve as an offroading platform. No need to buy new for offroading specifically IMO. This was not really true 6-7 years ago.

Oh, and there is the Rivian R2 coming. The only thing I would not do in a Rivian is to drive through desert as I drive the 4R. I would fear it would fall apart, starting from the suspension And our terrain in AZ really is for the kind of tires that don't work well on EV. But slower, scenic trails and generally non-Baja style trails? I would do those in a Rivian all day and using P-metric AT on non-hardcore UT or CO trails does not freak me out.
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I hope that 5600 lbs is wrong. I'm seeing two sources posting 5,038 lbs, but nothing from Toyota directly. According to Ford, a 2024 F-150 V8 supercrew 4x4 platinum weighs 5,122 lbs.

2024 4Runner is 26 degree departure angle, and 2025 4Runner is 24 degree departure angle (not stated what trim, all the worse if that's the Pro/Trailhunter trim number). Shame to see numbers go down. Maybe my 5th gen on 32.5" tires will have a better departure angle than any factory 6th gen. In my pipe dream world, they could've increased tire size and all angles without increasing any lengths, but of course a zillion competing interests went into the designs.
Someone on the Land Cruiser forum took one to a scale. It was 5,560lbs with a driver.

And yeah - it's crazy that it's heavier than an F150 supercrew. A Supercrew 4x4 XLT with the 2.7 EB is only 4,941 lbs. The LC250 is really heavy.
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Someone on the Land Cruiser forum took one to a scale. It was 5,560lbs with a driver.

And yeah - it's crazy that it's heavier than an F150 supercrew. A Supercrew 4x4 XLT with the 2.7 EB is only 4,941 lbs. The LC250 is really heavy.
Even if I assume the driver was a big boy that had a bit of extra crap in the car, I would call 5,300 lbs curb weight too heavy. Hopefully once more sources come out, it'll be more clear. I wonder if that one example was weighed stock, no bigger/heavier tires or anything.

Maybe that battery (and electric motor) really does weigh a lot. I wonder what the curb weight difference between same trim 4x4 Tacomas with/without the hybridization is. Not sure if the full-time 4WD transfer case weighs appreciably more compared to the part-time unit, or how many other areas weight is added for the hybrid.

A GX 550 is listed as 5,585 lbs curb weight, no hybrid but extra luxury weight and the tt V6 and 10-speed.
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Hmm, Toyota's site is listing Land Cruiser "Curb weight (minimum)" as 5,037.5 lbs.

2024 Toyota Land Cruiser Specifications | Toyota.com

Also, the hybrid battery warranty is 10yr/150k miles (12yr/150k miles in several specific states that they list)

After watching the Car Care Nut video (with the budget friendly 1958 model), I'm really, really liking the Land Cruiser. I wish they would've done a couple things differently, and I'm still curious how they're getting an 8" ground clearance on 33" tires, but it's still super cool to me.
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Hmm, Toyota's site is listing Land Cruiser "Curb weight (minimum)" as 5,037.5 lbs.

2024 Toyota Land Cruiser Specifications | Toyota.com

Also, the hybrid battery warranty is 10yr/150k miles (12yr/150k miles in several specific states that they list)

After watching the Car Care Nut video (with the budget friendly 1958 model), I'm really, really liking the Land Cruiser. I wish they would've done a couple things differently, and I'm still curious how they're getting an 8" ground clearance on 33" tires, but it's still super cool to me.
I like the Car Care Nut but he just bought a Tundra knowing the issues they have, unless Toyota sold it to him half price that goes against his "old school" mantra that he always touts.

I think the 5th gen 4Runner will be seen as a more capable off-road vehicle, more reliable and will last longer. The LC250 is a better daily driver, highway commute vehicle. Not saying I wouldn't buy one, love their looks but it's a LC light with thay ground clearance and size.
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I like "The Car Care Nut", and his videos that he makes on Toyotas and Lexus. If he purchased a new Tundra as he said he did, I would hope by now the 2021-2022 V6 engine problems have been taken care of. I'm sure this will haunt people for the next 10 years and every time you see a Tundra you will think bad V6 engines.
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