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Old 11-12-2013, 05:04 PM #1
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wagon lovers?

My wife and I were shopping for our first new car and decided a wagon would suit our lifestyle best. We tend to drive the 4Runner most of the time due to its versatility and ability to carry lots of gear, so we figured a wagon that got good mileage and had cargo capacity would be a good choice.

We hit the showrooms and were surprised how few small to medium-sized wagons are out there. I'm not talking about cross-over vehicles either. Audi no longer makes the A4 Avant (wagon), BMW didn't have a 3-series wagon at the time we were shopping, the only other options were the ultra-expensive Mercedes E63 wagon, Dodge Magnum wagon (now discontinued) and Subarus (of which we do not like any of the new ones.)

We ended up with sort of an oddball car, an Acura TSX wagon. Acura only sells 3,900 per year. Toyota sells that many Camrys every 23 seconds. Anyways, we love the car.



Empty parking lots during the national park closure!


It's end-of-tank average is 35 mpg on the highway.




On a recent trip to Europe we noticed that 75% of the cars were wagons, where it's probably like 2% here. If you have a wagon, post it up!
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Ha, I can definitely see the lack of love for wagons!
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Ha, I can definitely see the lack of love for wagons!
I like wagons too, but I really don't care for any of the current models. But you can't go wrong with an Acura. I had a TL and loved that car.

I used to have a 1989 Volvo 240 Wagon and that thing was a tank! It was indestructible and I could haul stuff with it. Some of the current CUV's (Honda Crosstour and Acura ZDX) look interesting, but would probably grow tired quick.
If I had the money, I'd get the Audi A7 hatchback.
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I like wagons too, but I really don't care for any of the current models. But you can't go wrong with an Acura. I had a TL and loved that car.

I used to have a 1989 Volvo 240 Wagon and that thing was a tank!
Funny, the Acura replaced my wife's 1994 Volvo 940 Turbo wagon. My wife's entire family drives either 240s or 940s. I made the mistake of buying an 850 Turbo as my daily driver, and let me say, those are not built like the old ones. Now Volvo is owned by a Chinese company.
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Funny, the Acura replaced my wife's 1994 Volvo 940 Turbo wagon. My wife's entire family drives either 240s or 940s. I made the mistake of buying an 850 Turbo as my daily driver, and let me say, those are not built like the old ones. Now Volvo is owned by a Chinese company.
Agreed about the quality of Volvo. And it's a shame because they used to make a great vehicle that would run forever.
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I think that is true for a lot of vehicles. Subarus used to be indestructible but our friends that have new ones are having all kinds of problems. Toyota quality isn't what it used to be either.

The new cars with direct injection are having horrible problems with intake valve carbon deposits (because with DI there is no fuel to run over the valves to keep them clean), and the Acura was one of the last cars available without direct injection. I suspect that this car will be like the 240s in terms of simplicity and long-term durability. The engine has nothing fancy at all except VTEC, which is pretty reliable.
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I like wagons too, but I really don't care for any of the current models. But you can't go wrong with an Acura. I had a TL and loved that car.

I used to have a 1989 Volvo 240 Wagon and that thing was a tank! It was indestructible and I could haul stuff with it. Some of the current CUV's (Honda Crosstour and Acura ZDX) look interesting, but would probably grow tired quick.
If I had the money, I'd get the Audi A7 hatchback.
I also love to drive it. I have driven mostly all wagons vehicles. I & My friend also looking for a new car which will arrive this year. I have seen the picture of that on Omegle. If anyone knows which one is coming soon model then DM.

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I wish it were. The TSX sedans are available with a manual, but not the wagons. Acura correctly assumed that 1) the wagon wouldn't be a big seller in the U.S. and 2) the only manual wagons they would sell in USA would be to myself, gshadow325, and maybe four others.
Actually there would be a ton sold. There are not too many manual wagons out there in any format.
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I have only seen a few TSX Wagons in the year we have had ours. But in Europe last month I saw a ton of them (badged as Honda Accord Tourer), and all the ones I saw were turbo diesels with the manual transmission.
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some more wagon love today....first time i drove her in the last 3 weeks.

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We recently took a 2800 mile road trip in ours. We bought a wagon because we tended to drive the 4Runner 90% of the time due to the amount of space inside for our things. We wanted a wagon so we could still camp and haul outdoor gear, but also get 30+ MPG.

662 miles the first day of travel across Hwy 50 to Utah.


Twisties on Hwy 50




Spotted an unusual 22-degree sun halo on our trip. The sun halo is caused by sunlight passing through ice crystals in cirrus clouds within the atmosphere. The crystals bend direct sunlight, projecting it elsewhere into the sky, and at precisely 22 degrees, forming a halo around the sun.




The car averaged 35 mpg the entire trip.


Kodachrome State park


We had a 1,177 mile trip home that we planned to spread across two days, but the car was so comfortable we soldiered on and did the entire drive in one day. The seats in this car are amazing.
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We had a 1,177 mile trip home that we planned to spread across two days, but the car was so comfortable we soldiered on and did the entire drive in one day. The seats in this car are amazing.
wish i can convince my wife to sit thru 1177 miles. If i could next vaction would be to yellowstone!
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I bought the 4runner (for me) because 'our' Dodge Magnum (wagon) developed $4,000 transmission issues.

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Some nice wagons in here!
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We have an 05 Dodge Magnum that runs but doesn't start.
Needed something to replace it right away so we bought a Jeep WJ.
Too many other projects that occupy my 1½ days off.

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