07-04-2012, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pkinfinity
$24K and its looks like it still has droopy springs in the rear.
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He's keeping it all original so it's worth more. but seriously think of the monster 1st gen you could build for half that money. Bumpers, lockers, tires and suspension woohoo, that would be killer.
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07-04-2012, 07:31 PM
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Lolz, never know... Someone is going to be dumb enough to buy it..
If I sold mine right now, I'd sell it for 4500, or maybe 4.
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07-04-2012, 08:00 PM
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Yes, I see this in the pics but when I went and saw it in person it was not sagging at all... I'm not blind nor stupid!... Maybe they swapped out springs? Dunno shrug: either way I'm over it... It's the 4th we should all be out doing somethibg other than sitting in front of a damn computer... time to get drunk!
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well im stuck at work so this is my break time.....FML
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07-04-2012, 08:05 PM
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well im stuck at work so this is my break time.....FML
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Sparklers, woooo!!!.......
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07-04-2012, 08:28 PM
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sometimes you toyota people make me laugh when it comes to this stuff !!! most of you guys have NO idea whats involved in a COMPLETE restoration . although complete restorations on toyotas are not that common for some of you people , I deal with them EVERYDAY , and my business is expanding , which I can tell you .. there is a demand !
I think this is a good job . and probabally a fair price for what has been done !
and as to the poster that said he wouldnt pay 26G for my Trekker , dont worry , I wouldnt even consider that as a respectable offer .( I have more $$ then that in NEW parts alone )
is a 427 cobra really worth 1 mill + ? not to me
1 Gen Ferrari - pricless ? not to me
427 corvette 100 grand ... not to me
but to some people they are !! I say stop hackin' on other peoples "stuff" , get off of the arm chair , and go actually build one
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07-04-2012, 09:08 PM
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sometimes you toyota people make me laugh when it comes to this stuff !!! most of you guys have NO idea whats involved in a COMPLETE restoration . although complete restorations on toyotas are not that common for some of you people , I deal with them EVERYDAY , and my business is expanding , which I can tell you .. there is a demand !
I think this is a good job . and probabally a fair price for what has been done !
and as to the poster that said he wouldnt pay 26G for my Trekker , dont worry , I wouldnt even consider that as a respectable offer .( I have more $$ then that in NEW parts alone )
is a 427 cobra really worth 1 mill + ? not to me
1 Gen Ferrari - pricless ? not to me
427 corvette 100 grand ... not to me
but to some people they are !! I say stop hackin' on other peoples "stuff" , get off of the arm chair , and go actually build one
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Ok, I'll have to stop you right there.
Thing is, and this isn't a 'defense' to them, but facts, that every member on this forum has built their rigs. Yeah, some like it stock and that is cool, but guarunteed every member here would build it bigger and better than that for 26k, and have more than 10k of it left over.
They are not trashing the truck because it is a 'restoration', but are thinking logically in that to speak for probably everyone here, wouldn't even lay a finger on that truck for 26k. I'd go buy me a used 2011 F150 with a few thousand miles on it for that price, with warranty.
Though I agree, he may have put in a lot of effort, work and money into the restoration of the truck, it is not even close to touching 7-8k, let alone 26. That is like saying, you bought a 95 gmc sonoma trashed, fixed it up and spent 40k on it, expecting to get 50k out of it, for parts, labor, and to put money into your own pocket, nobody would pay it.
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07-04-2012, 09:23 PM
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Ok, I'll have to stop you right there.
Thing is, and this isn't a 'defense' to them, but facts, that every member on this forum has built their rigs. Yeah, some like it stock and that is cool, but guarunteed every member here would build it bigger and better than that for 26k, and have more than 10k of it left over.
They are not trashing the truck because it is a 'restoration', but are thinking logically in that to speak for probably everyone here, wouldn't even lay a finger on that truck for 26k. I'd go buy me a used 2011 F150 with a few thousand miles on it for that price, with warranty.
Though I agree, he may have put in a lot of effort, work and money into the restoration of the truck, it is not even close to touching 7-8k, let alone 26. That is like saying, you bought a 95 gmc sonoma trashed, fixed it up and spent 40k on it, expecting to get 50k out of it, for parts, labor, and to put money into your own pocket, nobody would pay it.
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I understand that , and that is exactly why , it makes a "stock" truck , retain some sort of " extra" value .
In the real world , modified trucks are not worth as much in the resale market as stock trucks . believe it or not , to "everyone here" ... this is the minority , not the majority of toyota owners
I do know , and have done the modified . meny thousands on ARB's and gears , engine mods .. I do them everyday . and i know exactly what you are saying , that some people , and most on this board would rather spend there money on these such modifications ..
but what I dont think some people realize .. is there ARE people whom want a stock 4Runner .. there ARE people who dont want any modifications , and there are people willing to pay for a nice clean STOCK 4 Runner .. sall i'm sayin '
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07-04-2012, 11:26 PM
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That is like saying, you bought a 95 gmc sonoma trashed, fixed it up and spent 40k on it, expecting to get 50k out of it, for parts, labor, and to put money into your own pocket, nobody would pay it.
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So... that's not how it works?? I was looking to get at least 40k for mine. Way to take the wind out of my sails.
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07-04-2012, 11:54 PM
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Hey guys, most of us are mechanics in some form or fashion. If we weren't the type of guys to do it our selves, we wouldn't be here. This is a part of the problem with that price tag for us. We see something and say "no way it's worth that much". We only say that because we know that if we do it ourselves that it can be done that much cheaper!
Let's say a windshield for example... I would never pay $1200 for a front windshield because I know that I could do it myself for much less. But to BadVision, maybe he couldn't so he had to have someone else do it for that price
But for anyone else that doesn't have any idea what a wrench or a bottle of oil is, maybe the 24 or 26k is a good price.
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07-05-2012, 06:52 AM
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Slacker, no one is doubting the effort involved, or the costs involved with restoring a vehicle, either. The simple fact is there must still be a demand for what's been restored, AT THAT PRICE RANGE, or the owner is simply living a pipe dream asking for it. You mention Ferraris and Cobras and such--there is HIGH demand for them, therefore the price point moves accordingly. We understand you build and restore for a living, and that's obviously where your emphasis is, and what you respect and will pay for, but that's NOT a justification for the other 99.9% of the people in the market. You can't separate the effort from the market demand, and demand says this guy is likely going to eat the money he put in his rig--THAT'S what we're commenting on.
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07-05-2012, 07:12 AM
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To put things simple. It is priced astronomically high. Even a 3 mile never driven always garaged '85 isn't worth 26k to 99.98% of the public. On the other hand no matter what, there is always gonna be "that guy" with a stupid amount of money that had one when they were new. That guy will pay just to relive his glory days. Now will the seller and mr. once in a life time buyer find each other... probably not.
I have over 30k in receipts telling me my 4runner is worth more to me than I will ever get.
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07-05-2012, 08:07 AM
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Wasn't there a 26,000 mile Runner with even the original tire weights on it going for $24,000. That's what I would want. If I had $26,000 I'd want to oversee the work myself, even if I didn't actually do the work.
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07-05-2012, 08:10 AM
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26K is just insane. Might get close to that for a frame off resto FJ40 Diesel, but not a T4R...
I remember seeing an '85, garage kept, one owner, less than 100K mile, maticulously cared for, stock rig go for 12K a couple months, but 26K, no way!!!
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07-05-2012, 11:32 AM
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So... that's not how it works?? I was looking to get at least 40k for mine. Way to take the wind out of my sails.
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It's OK, I'd spend the 40k for yours.... Let me save up for a few years and I'll write you a check.
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