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Rear Spring Sag Question
The question may have been answered already, but my 4Runner is having this issue. My dad work at an auto body shop and told me that all I need to do is replace the springs and shock absorbers.
What my question is, what is the best replacement springs and shock absorbers for my truck. I want to keep it the same height, I like to keep my truck as factory as possible.
I have a 1992 Toyota 4RUNNER SR5 3.0L V6.
What are some good quality replacements?
Thanks, Brandon
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02-08-2013, 03:46 PM
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There's not as much available in stock height replacement springs as there is lift springs.
Moog is one brand that comes to mind.
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02-08-2013, 04:21 PM
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I personally have the moog cc255 springs in my truck. They do give it that stock height again. Just make sure you replace the shocks too or it defeats the purpose. I personally added daystar 1 1/4 spacers on top of them too. It gives the truck a slight rake to it, which i love the look of. Best of luck thou.
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02-08-2013, 08:02 PM
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You might consider the following:
1) moog rear coil springs(std)
2) shocks- bilstein, factory , or the like
3) rear control and lateral arm bushings, urethane (suspension.com)
comment: no affiliation with any co's mentioned.
The above mentioned parts really got the proper stance back on our 1990 4runner. I did rebuild the front suspension and have the truck re-aligned.
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02-08-2013, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jhacker1
I personally have the moog cc255 springs in my truck. They do give it that stock height again. Just make sure you replace the shocks too or it defeats the purpose. I personally added daystar 1 1/4 spacers on top of them too. It gives the truck a slight rake to it, which i love the look of. Best of luck thou.
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I've looked at the pictures of your truck and I really like the height. Were those pictures taken after you installed the springs and the spacers?
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02-09-2013, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Brandon
I've looked at the pictures of your truck and I really like the height. Were those pictures taken after you installed the springs and the spacers?
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I honestly dont remember. I wanna say they were with the springs but not spacers. If ya can give me til tomorrow i have the day off and ill snap ya some better pics of the stance
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I honestly dont remember. I wanna say they were with the springs but not spacers. If ya can give me til tomorrow i have the day off and ill snap ya some better pics of the stance
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That would be awesome! Thank you so much.
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02-10-2013, 11:49 PM
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Here ya go... The pictures dont really do it justice. Due to the rain and it being winter I had to wash it indoors so this is the best i got. But ya can get the general idea. The spring i bout at rock auto for a fair price, the spacers i got on ebay for around $40. The close up is of the daystar spacer
ps they are also cellphone pics so they are of the best quality
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02-11-2013, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jhacker1
Here ya go... The pictures dont really do it justice. Due to the rain and it being winter I had to wash it indoors so this is the best i got. But ya can get the general idea. The spring i bout at rock auto for a fair price, the spacers i got on ebay for around $40. The close up is of the daystar spacer
ps they are also cellphone pics so they are of the best quality
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They look perfect. The springs and the spacers level it out perfectly. Thank you for going out of your way to take those pictures.
I have purchased a set (for the rear). As well as new Bilstein shock absorbers. Your answers have been so helpful. Thank you so much.
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02-11-2013, 11:59 PM
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Not a problem. Glad i could help.
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12-19-2013, 02:20 AM
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Sag
My 2001 4Runner has the same exact issue with the sag in the back. I put new tires on it last week and I now know why it sags. The rear stock springs are so thin. My plan is to get replacement springs and OME shocks and fix this problem. The replacement springs are much stiffer.
Lift kits all day!
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12-19-2013, 09:46 AM
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I placed the moog springs and KYB shocks on my 1994 Runner, brought the rear end right back up where it belongs.
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12-19-2013, 12:02 PM
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Timely topic; FedEx should be delivering my Moog springs and Monroe shocks from Rock Auto today (went cheap on shocks; anything has to be an improvement over what’s on it).
Hmm…..wonder if I should add the spacers. Guess I could install the springs and if I think it needs more lift, add them later (a lot more work, though)
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Originally Posted by Jdrum1
Timely topic; FedEx should be delivering my Moog springs and Monroe shocks from Rock Auto today (went cheap on shocks; anything has to be an improvement over what’s on it).
Hmm…..wonder if I should add the spacers. Guess I could install the springs and if I think it needs more lift, add them later (a lot more work, though)
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Our 4runner with Moog springs, factory shocks, and urethane bushings in the rear specs out:
1) measure from lip of steel rim(top) to lip of the rear quarter(bottom) 13 inches
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2) measure from top of tire tread, or tire to the lip of the wheel well (rear quarter) is about 6 3/4 -7 inches
Thought this might help for comparison. Anymore lift on our truck would compromise stability on the highway, for us. When I rebuilt the rear suspension, the new rear bushings in the control arms/lateral rod raised the suspension about an inch at least. The original bushings were shot with 60k original on them, albeit 20+ years of aging. Hope this helps.
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12-19-2013, 03:51 PM
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I feel as though people with both 1st gens and 2nd gens find that factory replacement spring packs or coil packs (1st or 2nd gen) usually result in a look that still appears to have rear "Sag". The spacers are probably your best bet. 2" over stock height in the rear usually winds up looking close to level from what I understand.
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