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Got to work on the interior today and was not happy with what I found. Got a nasty rust spot in the drivers footwell. About an 8" rust spot with a couple quarter sized holes. It appears that replacement floor pans do not exist (how do they not?). SO I'm going to have to figure something out.
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02-20-2021, 08:54 PM
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Got to work on the interior today and was not happy with what I found. Got a nasty rust spot in the drivers footwell. About an 8" rust spot with a couple quarter sized holes. It appears that replacement floor pans do not exist (how do they not?). SO I'm going to have to figure something out.
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There are two Toyota-only salvage yards in the Denver, CO area that may be able to help you. Jim's Yota in East Denver and Yota Yard in West Denver. If you only need a smaller section of good steel to weld in, it couldn't be that expensive to ship.
Yeah, rust sucks. I dealt with it in my first '89, had to cut out sections of the quarters, replace fenders....it sucks, I know exactly how you feel brother.
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02-22-2021, 10:34 AM
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Thanks for the suggestion. I'll give those guys a try. Will be interested to see what they charge. The rust is obviously really severe in the corner of the footwell, nothing else is rusted through but the surface rust is fairly heavy. I'd rather have sheet metal in there with the ribbing like the factory stuff rather than generic flat plate. I'm pretty surprised with there being a decent following for our 4runners and pickups that no one is stamping these things out.
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02-22-2021, 09:13 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion. I'll give those guys a try. Will be interested to see what they charge. The rust is obviously really severe in the corner of the footwell, nothing else is rusted through but the surface rust is fairly heavy. I'd rather have sheet metal in there with the ribbing like the factory stuff rather than generic flat plate. I'm pretty surprised with there being a decent following for our 4runners and pickups that no one is stamping these things out.
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Agreed.
I did another '89 project about 10 years ago that had horrible cancer on both quarters and fenders. I found a place called Wolf Steel out of Canada that stamps the quarter flares and skins. They also had some other parts for our rigs but I can't remember exactly what. It all looked good when I got it and welded in fine. I got the fenders from Jim's Yota in Denver and stripped them down to bare steel. Pretty sure I only paid $100 for two good fenders. Call both of those shops in Denver (Jims Yota and Yota Yard).
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02-22-2021, 09:56 PM
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I have a couple rust holes in my drivers floor too, sadly. The pinch weld that joins the floor pan and the outer portion of the A pillar must have got frost heaved and rust heaved and let water in. Really kicking myself for not tearing up the carpets sooner, the floors were the cleanest part of my truck!
I haven't found anyone who makes afterberth replacement floor panels, if anyone does, or if anyone gets crafty and decides to produce them, you'll have a good market cornered! Either finding a donor, as said above, and getting happy with a sawzall, or bend and create your own. We just picked up a '90 pickup for the wife, and looking at her floor it looks very close to mine, I'm not sure if you could make the next generation of truck floors work. I might be stuck building my own floor sections. If I do, I will do a write-up for y'all
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02-23-2021, 03:19 PM
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I have a couple rust holes in my drivers floor too, sadly. The pinch weld that joins the floor pan and the outer portion of the A pillar must have got frost heaved and rust heaved and let water in. Really kicking myself for not tearing up the carpets sooner, the floors were the cleanest part of my truck!
I haven't found anyone who makes afterberth replacement floor panels, if anyone does, or if anyone gets crafty and decides to produce them, you'll have a good market cornered! Either finding a donor, as said above, and getting happy with a sawzall, or bend and create your own. We just picked up a '90 pickup for the wife, and looking at her floor it looks very close to mine, I'm not sure if you could make the next generation of truck floors work. I might be stuck building my own floor sections. If I do, I will do a write-up for y'all
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I feel you on the guilt. My floors were in pretty good shape when I bought the truck back in 2015. If I had pulled the carpets more often, I wouldn't have been in this situation. I guess I'm thankful it's something that will be covered by carpet on one side and undercoat on the other so I guess it doesn't have to be perfect to look at.
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02-27-2021, 10:40 PM
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I have a question about quench, hopefully someone can give a bit of advice. I bought a rebuilt engine from a guy who said he's built a ton of 22res. I only read about quench AFTER the engine was installed. And I've been driving it for a month or so.
I can tell you that I explicitly remember the top of the pistons being about 1-2mm below the deck at tdc. I'm not gonna pull this engine out now. What would y'all recommend I do to counteract any issues this may cause. And how can I make it run its best with it this way? Thanks in advance!
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02-28-2021, 12:37 PM
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I hit up a wrecking yard yesterday, cut the front quarter section (halfway up the A pillar, down the centre of the dash and down transmission tunnel) with a cordless sawzall out of a 94 4runner; it was all that was there with a decent floor sadly. My wife said it looked as easy as quartering an elk. I haven't had a chance to dig into it too much, or separate the patch piece I need from the donor chunk, but it looks pretty close. The seam that joins the floor pan to the rocker panel are different between the two generations, the 80's floor pan seam is parallel to the ground and nicely butts up to the rocker, however the 90's seam is on a 30-40 degree downward angle where it joins the rocker. I'm not sure if you could just trim excess, flatten it in a brake and then lap joint it overtop, or trim an inch into the floor pan and butt joint it. I have a fair bit of rust on the floor pan around the body mount, so I am hoping that they line up close on the two generations. I have no idea how to attach pictures on here (but I will find out), once I do I can send you some somewhat side by side photos if you'd like
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03-01-2021, 10:19 AM
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I hit up a wrecking yard yesterday, cut the front quarter section (halfway up the A pillar, down the centre of the dash and down transmission tunnel) with a cordless sawzall out of a 94 4runner; it was all that was there with a decent floor sadly. My wife said it looked as easy as quartering an elk. I haven't had a chance to dig into it too much, or separate the patch piece I need from the donor chunk, but it looks pretty close. The seam that joins the floor pan to the rocker panel are different between the two generations, the 80's floor pan seam is parallel to the ground and nicely butts up to the rocker, however the 90's seam is on a 30-40 degree downward angle where it joins the rocker. I'm not sure if you could just trim excess, flatten it in a brake and then lap joint it overtop, or trim an inch into the floor pan and butt joint it. I have a fair bit of rust on the floor pan around the body mount, so I am hoping that they line up close on the two generations. I have no idea how to attach pictures on here (but I will find out), once I do I can send you some somewhat side by side photos if you'd like
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Absolutely, that would be very helpful. I find posting pics is easiest straight from my iphone. Just have to make sure to not specify "full size".
I am currently removing all factory asphalt sound matting. I actually like the stuff but it was trapping moisture underneath so it has to go. Been slowly chipping away at it until I happened upon this technique of using "freezer spray". It apparently hardens and shatters off.
Once it's gone I want to replace it with something else to keep excess heat and noise out of the cabin but I'm afraid to use peel in stick because it might trap more moisture under there. IDK. Going to remove all the superficial rust and roll on some primer and bedliner.
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03-01-2021, 09:55 PM
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It's actually funny you mention the freeze method. The wrecking yard I was on on the weekend, it was about -15 Celsius (around 5 ish Fahrenheit) and the truck I cut up, literally a whole 20" by 30" section came up with the carpet when I gave it a good tug! I had never seen it come up with such ease, especially such a large chunk like that. It might be a little while before I actually get to skinning the donor chunk and installing it into my truck; I am in the heart of the wiring on my diesel swap, and engine repair/swap on the wife's 90 is also "knocking at my door". If you PM me your email I can send you whatever photos you'd like between the two floors
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03-07-2021, 11:15 PM
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Worked on the floorpan today. Removed all the asphalt sound deadening, cut out the rust hole, wire wheeled, and cleaned. Then I applied rust inhibitor, primer, and raptor liner.
Still have a hole in my floor but rusty edges are gone, will grind it all down again and weld in a patch but for now, I hopefully stopped the rust.
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03-07-2021, 11:17 PM
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Little side project. Polished the tailight lenses while I was watching tv. Little 3m kit worked great. No more haze.
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03-08-2021, 07:53 PM
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Gave the bedliner plenty of time to cure, now I'm applying some thin butyl sound mat, foam on top of that, then vinyl floor!
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03-08-2021, 10:42 PM
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Gave the bedliner plenty of time to cure, now I'm applying some thin butyl sound mat, foam on top of that, then vinyl floor!
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Making good progress! Where are you sourcing the vinyl floor from?
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03-09-2021, 12:24 AM
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Making good progress! Where are you sourcing the vinyl floor from?
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Molded Vinyl Mats
I got the passenger area kit from these guys, on sale at the time dunno if they still are. Molded Vinyl Mats
Floors are supposed to be custom molded for the truck but there’s still lots of trimming to do
If it all goes well I may do the cargo area the same way.
Here’s a photo of the butyl layer.
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