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Old 01-25-2006, 11:23 AM #1
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Putting a 2006 JBL in a 2005 .....

There was some slight discussion in the past as to whether or not a 2006 JBL head unit would work in a 2005 with existing JBL. To the best of my knowledge, the question was never actually answered. I had called my local parts department and they were not able to offer me any information.


Well --- I just purchased a 2006 6-Disk JBL head unit from Ebay ... should be here in 3 days. I am planning on simply pulling the 05 unit and putting the 06 in its place.


Has anyone tried this?? Does the trim around the unit match the same? I am 99.9% sure the plugs on the back are the same ... so I should not have any troulbe there.


I will take pics and post an update as soon as I get it.



BTW : I am doing this because I really want MP3 capability. I think my current JBL system sounds great .... no complaints except for the lack of MP3.


Also --- Anyone interested in my old 2005 6-Disk JBL Synthesis headunit? I will be posting it for sale on the classified section as soon as I pull it out and get the 06 working.
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Keep us posted. I'm sure other members may look into this if you're successful. I'm tempted myself, but I have an MP3 player so it's easier for me just to play it off that through an aux port instead of burning songs on an MP3 CD.

I've switched from a 2004 single disc JBL to a 2005 6 disc JBl and I had to change out the silver bezel as well as the panel which has the AC controls.

Since you're going from one 6 disc to another, you'll probably have an easier time. Good luck to ya!
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I have an IPod and considered just getting an aux connector.... but I wanted to try this first. I am hoping that I can eventually add the aux connector that is found in the new 06's to my 05 ....
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It should work just fine... you have an 05' amp so the navigatoin voice will be there already. 4-Disc MP3 is awesome.. thats partial reason to why I have an 06 unit
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Well -- I don't have a factory navigation system (I use a PDA for GPS).... this is just the JBL Synthesis 6 Disc. So --- I wouldn't have to worry about navigation voice either way.

Why did you say 4-Disk MP3?? Does the MP3 only work on the first 4 slots or something?
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Why did you say 4-Disk MP3?? Does the MP3 only work on the first 4 slots or something?
I believe in the 06 model, the Navi system is a 4 disc system compared to the single disc navi in the previous years. I'm not a whole lot familiar with the 06 since i've got an 04, so some correct me if i'm totally off base here.
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Oops... nevermind my post. I thought you picked up the 06 nav unit. I said 4 disc cuz the new nav units have a built in 4-disc mp3 changer behind the screen. Sorry about the mix up
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Got it and installed it. I will do a full write up tomorrow morning when I get to work. I stabbed myself in the hand with a knife (cause I am a complete moron ....) ... so, I want to let the throbbing go down before I try to type out a long explanation.
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Ok .... here's the story (which is long cause it is a slow day at work today)



Got the '06 unit. I did a quick visual inspection to check for size and fit, and the casing looked exactly the same size as the 05 unit. So --- I proceed to rip the dash apart. I was surprise at how quickly and easily everything comes apart in this car. About 10 minutes later I was pulling out my old headunit. This is where I ran into my first problem. The screws that hold the mounting brackets onto the side of the headunit were on so tight that my screwdriver was just strippin the heck outta them. So, the next logical step was to go inside and get a 7mm metric socket out of my toolbox and get them off the easy way. Of course --- the only socket missing from my set was the 7mm....

So --- quick trip to Home Depot and Taco Bell and I am back to work. It is getting late and I am losing light .... so, I am in a little bit of a hurry now. When I am in a hurry, bad things happen. So --- I go to take the tie straps off of the socket packaging with my trusty pocket knife and end up putting the knife through the meaty part below my thumb. After laughing at myself for a few minutes, I throw some papertowel around my hand and proceed to do the rest of this job one handed. It added a surprising degree of difficulty to the whole endeavour.

Anyhow --- I get the mounting brackets switched over and toss the unit in. Turned it on ... radio works, so I figure I am good to go. I put the entire dash back together and decide to load some CDs. Well --- when I go to push the load button, nothing happens. So -- I start messing around with the unit and I hear the disc changer moving around ... but nothing is happening. Finally, the unit just shuts off. So --- now I am figuring that not only am I coming out of this with a stabbed hand ... I also have a broken CD changer.

Anyhow --- I pull the dash apart again (one handed takes twice as long ....). I plug my old changer back in to make sure it wasn't just a wire or something that had some loose in the harnesses. The old one still works ... so, that isn't the problem. I put the new one in again and now I am getting "ERROR 3". I can only assume now that my CD changer did not survive shipping and I am S.O.L.

Well --- ERROR 3 just means that the changer is jammed. Surprisingly, these head units are very easy to get inside of. If you remove the top two screws on each side, you can remove the top plate. Here are some pics :


THE YELLOW ARROWS SHOW THE LOCATIONS OF THE SCREWS THAT NEED TO BE REMOVED. THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE UNIT. (The screws were already removed in this picture).




GIVE THE BACK OF THE TOP PLATE A LITTLE TUG AND IT WILL UNLATCH. PULL UP AND THEN TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE UNIT.




Ok --- So, in my case there were actually two things causing the ERROR3. The first was the fact that the previous owner left two jammed CDs inside of the thing. One disc was in slot 3 and the other disc was jammed in between slots 2 and 1. This in turn cause the second problem --- the laser that moves between the discs also got jammed when trying to get around the jammed disc.

Removing the jammed disc wasn't too bad. I brought the unit back out to the car and plugged it in with the cover off. I held down the eject button while pushing on the jammed disc and it managed to jump back into place and eject without a problem. Once the disc was ejected, I was able to move the laser back into place. Its hard to illustrate this with a picture... but I will do my best.


THE YELLOW ARROW IS POINTING TO THE LOCATION OF THE LASER ARM. THIS WILL SOMETIMES GET STUCK WHEN TRYING TO RETURN TO ITS DOCKING POINT. WITH THE UNIT TURNED ON, I APPLIED PRESSURE TO THE LASER IN A DOWNWARD MOTION AND THIS ALLOWED IT TO JUMP BACK INTO PLACE.





So --- unit is working now. Put the dash back together and it looks pretty good. It doesn't fit exactly like the '05 unit did. It looks slightly recessed and there is a very very small gap at the bottom. Here are some pics ....











As you can see --- when you get up on it, you can see a little gap. It is actually a lot more noticable from the pictures than it is when you are looking at it from a driving position in the vehicle.

Some things I noticed about the 06 : The 06 model does not have the RDS (radio data service) or the TRAF button. Also --- the unit is very slighly sluggish. By this, I mean that changing tracks takes longer and the steeringwheel controls seem slower to respond. There is something on the menu that says "RSE LOCK" which has an "on" and "off" setting. I have yet to try it, but I am hoping this means that you can lock the "rear seat entertainment" console so that my idiot friends don't screw with the remove when riding in the back seat.




Things to do : I now need to figure out how to add the "aux" connector into this thing so I can plug in my IPod. I am going to see if I can get the parts from Toyota this week and install the aux plug. Also --- I am considering added the Toyota satelite system when it becomes available.
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Sounds like the person that sent it to you didn't put it in "shipping" mode. This locks the internals of the CD Changer so it doesn't bounce around during transit.

I like how the 2006 unit looks. I think a lot of it goes to the fact that there isn't a tape deck. Really, who listens to tapes anymore?

TRAF button doesn't do jack for me so I can't comment on that feature. RDS is pretty nice though the station selection is somewhat limited. I hide the remote for the RSE so there goes that feature for me. MP3/WMA player is nice, but that is why I have an MP3 player to back up my CDs.

How much did you get it for?

PS: Take that silly sticker off
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HA --- I drove to work with that sticker still on the unit. I was afraid that if I pulled it off, I may damage the 6 disc changer again



I paid $220 for the unit. I figure I can get a little cash for my 05 6-disc and maybe only be out $150 or so in the end. Like I said before -- I have an ipod, but I figured an MP3 CD player would be less of a hassle. So far I am happy with it.
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I sold a Sienna 6 Disc JBL on Ebay for $150. You can probably get close to that and recoup most of your costs for the 06 version.
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Putting a 2006 JBL in.....

You did a great job describing your installation ( injury included, at least you didn't need stitches, tetnus up to date?)
Anyway I would like to remove my HU from my 2005 can you spend some time explaining how you take the dash apart? (don't need the one handed method, ((I hope))?
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Rovcen,

There are some amazing directions posted on the following site : http://www.castulucci.com/projects/carpc/oemnaviaccess/


The instructions on that site make the job very easy.


And ... no, my tetnus is actually not up to date .... But --- The knife was actually a very clean knife. So -- I am going to take my chances
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fixing the gap

First let me say, that was an AWESOME post. That was very nice of you to take photos of each step and spend the time creating a great post.

My question is, I wonder if you can replace the silver framing on your 05 with a 06 silver frame and get rid of the gap ? Or maybe replacing the 05 black piece with a 06 piece between the radio and the info panel.

It can't be that expensive, having just install a fm modulator for my Sirius PNP radio I know the silver frame is just molded plastic ?

Just a thought.
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