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Old 06-26-2015, 08:03 PM #46
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Hey all,

In addition to above adaptor, it is best to have your wheel & tire balanced using this machine:

Hunter GSP9700 Wheel vibration Control System solves wheel vibration and tire pull problems that balancers and aligners can't fix

On the website above, you can enter your address to see what shop near you have this balancing machine...here is the direct link:

http://www.gsp9700.com/pub/search/findgsp9700.cfm

"The GSP9700 Vibration Control System extends far beyond the traditional functions of a wheel balancer. It not only solves wheel balance problems, but also "road tests" the tire/wheel assembly to eliminate virtually every variable causing vibration in relation to the tire and rim.

"The GSP9700 Vibration Control System includes Hunter's exclusive Road Force Measurement System. This system utilizes a "road roller" which measures the uniformity of the wheel and tire, simulating a road force test and verifying if the assembly is "round when rolling" under load. Now nearly all wheel/tire-related vibration problems can be diagnosed and/or eliminated in seconds."


The GSP9700 Vibration Control System measures lateral and radial rim runout without removing the tire from the rim and quickly indicates if runout is tire related. Runout can also be measured at the actual bead seat on a bare rim.
The GSP9700 Vibration Control System then calculates the contributions of the tire and the rim to the vibration problem and presents the technician with easy-to-follow repair instructions.
The GSP9700 locator on its website seems to be outdated/inaccurate. I contacted multiple shops that it listed as having the machine and they told me they did not have it. Still waiting to hear back from a Discount Tire store, think someone mentioned all their locations now have them.

Anyone know of any big shop brands that carry this machine/adapter plate at their locations? Trying to find a shop in San diego that has the machine and adapter, but many either have one or the other, or have no clue what I'm talking about. Lots of mechanics also say they don't think my vehicle needs it lol.
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Old 06-27-2015, 01:11 AM #47
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Try hg Motorsports. They work on a ton of go fast cars but I believe they have the hunter machine.
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Try hg Motorsports. They work on a ton of go fast cars but I believe they have the hunter machine.
I asked HG and they said they do "Road Force Balancing" but don't have the Haweka plate or GSP9700 machine.

I also heard from another shop that they use a fixed finger plate that's identical to the Haweka one. They also said they use a "Coats" machine that (according to him) is a more reliable machine. Does anyone know about Coats balance machines? He charges $7.50/wheel, which is a lot cheaper than what i've been quoted by others. Kinda skeptical...
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I recently used rubber on wheels mobile installer and they balanced my 33s perfectly. Ask for Moses. Not cheap but he did the job right with no scratches on my new wheels.
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Hey all,

In addition to above adaptor, it is best to have your wheel & tire balanced using this machine:

Hunter GSP9700 Wheel vibration Control System solves wheel vibration and tire pull problems that balancers and aligners can't fix

On the website above, you can enter your address to see what shop near you have this balancing machine...here is the direct link:

http://www.gsp9700.com/pub/search/findgsp9700.cfm

"The GSP9700 Vibration Control System extends far beyond the traditional functions of a wheel balancer. It not only solves wheel balance problems, but also "road tests" the tire/wheel assembly to eliminate virtually every variable causing vibration in relation to the tire and rim.

"The GSP9700 Vibration Control System includes Hunter's exclusive Road Force Measurement System. This system utilizes a "road roller" which measures the uniformity of the wheel and tire, simulating a road force test and verifying if the assembly is "round when rolling" under load. Now nearly all wheel/tire-related vibration problems can be diagnosed and/or eliminated in seconds."


The GSP9700 Vibration Control System measures lateral and radial rim runout without removing the tire from the rim and quickly indicates if runout is tire related. Runout can also be measured at the actual bead seat on a bare rim.
The GSP9700 Vibration Control System then calculates the contributions of the tire and the rim to the vibration problem and presents the technician with easy-to-follow repair instructions.
Do you know if any other machines are capable of balancing properly, or is it only the GSP9700 that can do it right? None of my local shops carry that machine, but some say they can do road force balancing. Not sure if I should shell out the $50-100 they're asking for that type of balance if they don't have this machine.
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Had a tire balanced with a nail in it then discovered the nail and had it plugged. Just that changed completely threw off the balance
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I just got a 00 LTD and the ride is really smooth till about 50mph then vibration starts at the steering wheel so I'm thinking front tires might need to be balanced... I looked up a shop near me that uses the Hunter GSP 9700 with Road Force and Straight Track and only 1 showed up... I called to get some info and they didn't seem sure if they had the right adapter for Toyota since they do Hondas and said only way to find out would be to actually take the vehicle there and try... Oh and it would be $150!! LOL!!!

Now, since the vehicle is used, I don't know if the tires are good, or the rims are out of round or if all is OK and they just need to be balanced...but $150 is hard to swallow...

Edit: I just widened the search area (was set to 5 mile radius) and found and called Tires Plus and they quoted me $55.30 after tax.. MUCH better! Made an appt for this Friday noon, hoping I won't have to replace my tires or rims or both!!!

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I don't know if this is accurate or not, but I am currently having balancing issues (Cooper Disco AT3) that were installed and attempted to be balanced twice by Discount Tire, and they failed miserably (twice). None of the Discount Tires around me come up on the GSP9700 locator tool, but the Firestone places do.
I was just going to mention this. I always needed road force balancing for my bimmers, most firestone shops have the ability to do it, or at least know where to send you. That machine balanced some pretty decent sized bends in aluminum rims to zero vibrations. A huge help until I was able to find a wheel repair shop I trusted enough to touch my AC Schnitzers.
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Does anyone have any recommendations for a balance in the Boulder, CO area? I got a set of General Grabber AT2s (285/75r16) mounted and balanced at the Discount Tire there and I think after 4 trips to two different DT's (one in Broomfield, too) all they've managed to do is move the vibration around. To his credit, the guy at the Broomfield one did say he was going to use the lug adapter during their last attempt but the shimmy is still there. Moving the wheels front to back does change (not eliminate) the vibration so I'm fairly certain that's where the problem lies.

My office moved recently so I'm putting a lot more highway miles on and the 60-70mph shimmy is getting pretty aggravating.
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Hey all,

In addition to above adaptor, it is best to have your wheel & tire balanced using this machine:

Hunter GSP9700 Wheel vibration Control System solves wheel vibration and tire pull problems that balancers and aligners can't fix

On the website above, you can enter your address to see what shop near you have this balancing machine...here is the direct link:

http://www.gsp9700.com/pub/search/findgsp9700.cfm

"The GSP9700 Vibration Control System extends far beyond the traditional functions of a wheel balancer. It not only solves wheel balance problems, but also "road tests" the tire/wheel assembly to eliminate virtually every variable causing vibration in relation to the tire and rim.

"The GSP9700 Vibration Control System includes Hunter's exclusive Road Force Measurement System. This system utilizes a "road roller" which measures the uniformity of the wheel and tire, simulating a road force test and verifying if the assembly is "round when rolling" under load. Now nearly all wheel/tire-related vibration problems can be diagnosed and/or eliminated in seconds."


The GSP9700 Vibration Control System measures lateral and radial rim runout without removing the tire from the rim and quickly indicates if runout is tire related. Runout can also be measured at the actual bead seat on a bare rim.
The GSP9700 Vibration Control System then calculates the contributions of the tire and the rim to the vibration problem and presents the technician with easy-to-follow repair instructions.
Great info! Thanks! Maybe explained why I had a shimmy after getting the TRD Pro wheels installed
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To my knowledge yes...
what about SEARS Auto stores?

They should, right...?
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Thanks for the info. I'm having vibration issues. Had tires installed by Walmart and if they don't fix the vibration issue with a re-balancing of the tires, they will refund me my money so I can get it done properly elsewhere. I know, Walmart was the first issue. Lol
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Last time I was at Tire Rack in South Bend, I believe the guy said they like to see 20# or less on the GSP9700.
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I worked for VW back when they introduced the Super Beetle with Macpherson struts. Brand new they had trouble with the vibration that mimicked wheel balance issues on every new vehicle and not cured by "just" balancing tires. In that era all OEM tires on VW's were Continentals.

Unfortunately my memory isn't serving me well but the balancer we used with success was designed for "on car" balancing routine. Manufacturer will appear in my memory likely next week, but it will appear!

We could spin the "wheel assembly" up to over 100 mph and we would attach a human hair to the fender as the telltale. Essentially you balanced all the spinning components using this method and we made an index mark showing position of wheel relative to brake drum.

Worked just fine in this application and quite possibly would be successful in the "tough to balance" scenarios.

It was a Hunter, just wasn't sure. I notice Alemite made a very comparable machine, same era. Here's the entire setup. Likely OSHA outlawed this!

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Thanks for all the information, just bought a 13 and I got vibration.

I also noticed after the fact that all four tires are cupped. :-\
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