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Yeah, in the TireRack test, KO2 hung with the leaders, even in the wet. Again, this was a Heavy LT tire vs. much lighter weight P-metric competitors. Even TireRack was surprised how well KO2 did on-road! And surprisingly, it was not the worst in fuel economy either!

BTW, i drive between Texas and Colorado often in all types of weather. Never felt KO2s were unstable or slippery. Now, i do drive sensibly.
I had KO2's on another SUV. I've had lots of other A/T tires. I can tell you that in comparison, they aren't great in the wet. They have the classic BFG A/T look. I've had sets of them since the 80's. The KO2's are better in the wet than the KO or older versions, but even Tire Rack stated they would like more wet grip.

You can see from the picture I posted, that I'm running the deeper tread LT Yokohama Geolandar A/T G015. Shortly after I installed them two months ago, they've been in downpours, and snow. They did much better than the KO2's I also owned. They are as quiet as the OEM Dunlops it came with, They balanced easily with no vibration or shimmy at any speed, and only a slightly firmer ride due to the LT construction.

Tire Rack also stated that their fuel economy numbers are not a highly accurate test. But tire engineers will also tell you that to get great wet grip, some fuel economy is sacrificed. I ran a few tanks through my 4Runner with the OEM Dunlops, and have run some tanks through with the Yokohama's. Surprisingly to me, I haven't been able to detect much change in MPG at all, despite driving the same roads, in the same driving style, and using the same gas pump.
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I had KO2's on another SUV. I've had lots of other A/T tires. I can tell you that in comparison, they aren't great in the wet. They have the classic BFG A/T look. I've had sets of them since the 80's. The KO2's are better in the wet than the KO or older versions, but even Tire Rack stated they would like more wet grip.

You can see from the picture I posted, that I'm running the deeper tread LT Yokohama Geolandar A/T G015. Shortly after I installed them two months ago, they've been in downpours, and snow. They did much better than the KO2's I also owned. They are as quiet as the OEM Dunlops it came with, They balanced easily with no vibration or shimmy at any speed, and only a slightly firmer ride due to the LT construction.

Tire Rack also stated that their fuel economy numbers are not a highly accurate test. But tire engineers will also tell you that to get great wet grip, some fuel economy is sacrificed. I ran a few tanks through my 4Runner with the OEM Dunlops, and have run some tanks through with the Yokohama's. Surprisingly to me, I haven't been able to detect much change in MPG at all, despite driving the same roads, in the same driving style, and using the same gas pump.
Maybe my tread are still good...thus, i have not noticed any wet issue.

Yoko G015 LT was my 2nd choice but it did not come in stock size (for Land Cruiser)...only P-metric available. I did consider a skinnier size but it was Load Range E and was just as heavy as KO2 in Load Range D in stock LC size. It’s been a great match with my LC so far.

My other choice was Michelin Defender, which i love.......but that damn minivan-look!
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Maybe my tread are still good...thus, i have not noticed any wet issue.

Yoko G015 LT was my 2nd choice but it did not come in stock size (for Land Cruiser)...only P-metric available. I did consider a skinnier size but it was Load Range E and was just as heavy as KO2 in Load Range D in stock LC size. Itís been a great match with my LC so far.

My other choice was Michelin Defender, which i love.......but that damn minivan-look!
I'm running the E load range Yokohama's, in the stock 265/70R17 size. They are a bit taller than most tires in that size at 31.9" vs 31.6" most others in that size run, and they have 18/32nds tread depth. The KO2's have 15/32nds, the New Toyo's 16/32nds. All LT sizes.

I looked at and considered the new Toyo Open Country A/T3's. Compared them all side-by-side. I had the Toyo A/T2's in my 3rd gen. They were like the KO2's I had, good in dry dirt, not so great in the wet.

The new Toyo A/T3's supposedly have improved wet grip, and are now 3PMS rated like the BFG and Yoko. We get tons of snow. But I suspected they would be louder than the Yokohama's.

Ultimately I went with Yoko's because I've always have a good experience with their car and truck tires, they were on flash sale of $100.00 off for a set of 4, a manufacturers rebate of $60.00 off a set of 4, they matched the lowest Walmart price, and I was getting $100.00 for each of my stock Dunlops.

I couldn't beat the deal, and I have been very pleased with them so far.

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I'm running the E load range Yokohama's, in the stock 265/70R17 size. They are a bit taller than most tires in that size at 31.9" vs 31.6" most others in that size run, and they have 18/32nds tread depth. The KO2's have 15/32nds, the New Toyo's 16/32nds. All LT sizes.

I looked at and considered the new Toyo Open Country A/T3's. Compared them all side-by-side. I had the Toyo A/T2's in my 3rd gen. They were like the KO2's I had, good in dry dirt, not so great in the wet.

The new Toyo A/T3's supposedly have improved wet grip, but I suspected they would be louder than the Yokohama's.

Ultimately I went with Yoko's because I've always have a good experience with their car and truck tires, they were on flash sale of $100.00 off for a set of 4, a manufacturers rebate of $60.00 off a set of 4, they matched the lowest Walmart price, and I was getting $100.00 for each of my stock Dunlops.

I couldn't beat the deal, and I have been very pleased with them so far.
Discount Tire gave me $100 per tire off for my Dunlop stock tires! So, i saved $400 off KO2ís. How can you turn that down?!

A guy i know with Toyo AT3 did not like it. Had a sidewall puncture too. So, you picked good IMO.
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BTW the Landcruiser is a sweet ride. I considered one. Had an FZJ80 with front and rear e-lockers back in the day. The 200 series is nice. If we could get the Diesel version, I'd have one.
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I've had my BFG KO2's for around 5 months and so far haven't let me down. These tires have great traction off road. They are fairly smooth on the pavement. Bought them because of the discount I got from 4wheelonline.
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As long as you're looking at the BFG T/A KO2's perhaps look at the General Grabber A/Tx ...but as others said, for what you're doing you really don't need to change your tires. Good luck in your search!
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Perfect off-highway tire = LTX? What? | Expedition Portal - This guy has conquered many crazy trails on the Michelin Defenders LTX. I've got them on my 2001 Limited, but have yet to have the opportunity to go on the trail with it. My LC100 had the LTX's on it, and they were amazing on-road. The testimonials from Expedition Portal say it is one of the best you can get. It's hard to beat a 60k mile tread warranty and having the tire outlast that!
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I had the Defender LTX for 5 years & 65K miles and went all kinds of off-the-pavement places on them. I highly recommend them but decided to go with another Michelin product this time around, the LTX A/T2. Love them so far on the road and the trail.




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I had the Defender LTX for 5 years & 65K miles and went all kinds of off-the-pavement places on them. I highly recommend them but decided to go with another Michelin product this time around, the LTX A/T2. Love them so far on the road and the trail.



I agree. Iíve been running Michelins for over 20 years, six sets of LTX and M/S versions (not the latest Defenders), and now Iím using the AT2s. 20,000 miles on them so far, and theyíre great on road and off. I donít do anything severe or rock crawling though, cannot vouch for sidewall strength.
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Iíve been very happy with my Yokohama Geolandar G015 A/T in 255/75r17, a 32.1Ē diameter tire. I think they were only $160/tire incl. delivery to my house in 2018. The Michelins are very good tires, but more expensive (>$200/tire). I have never owned BFG tires.
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Currently have a little over 40,000 miles on Cooper LT rated AT3's on the '05 Sport 4x4, still great in the snow and rain.

Much to my surprise, the Yokohama Geolander's that came on my used '07 Sport when I bought it have been the best all-around tires I have ever owned.

BFG's have been riding on their rep for a long time, would not be my first choice again.
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The Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac has been the best truck tire for me in Ontario, quiet on the highway, great in snow, good in rain and dry!
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Picking up my new 2020 TRD off-road next week and looking to change the tires.

I live in Vancouver, BC so driving consists of MAINLY pavement 90% of the time
Rain, gravel roads, rocky "roads", maybe some minor sand, and (generally) wet snow

Would prefer to just have 1 set of tires I think. I think I've heard the KO2s are a good set? I'm not doing any SERIOUS mudding/offroading/etc. These are also 3-peak snow rated, so great for winter driving.

If I could get any more ground clearance from the tire, that's a bonus... but also definitely don't want anything that would require body changes or REQUIRE a lift to support

I've never bought tires in my life... so yeah...
ID say for mild snow to generally wet conditions out in BC and 90% pavement driving Michelin Defender LTX
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Nobody showing love for the Hankook Dynapros I see

My unbiased opinion... it's a well all around tire, good road manners in wet and dry conditions, quiet until they are worn out, then again I have a catback so my noise standards might be different than others.

I had the ATs and switched to MTs with no regrets, my T4R is a daily/weekend warrior so It's nice to have a set of tires that can handle both, my current set has around 30-40km and show little wear.
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