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Old 11-02-2020, 01:33 PM #1
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Tell me about 255/75-17. Sounds like the perfect tire?

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Planning my next tire purchase. 2018 Trd Pro. Pretty stock. I do a lot of fire roads to and from hiking locations. About 2-3 off-road trips a year. 1 on the beach, requires airing down.

Considering a lift, leaning towards OME BP51s.

Main goal is gain ground clearance, maintain reliability, as far as tires/wheels go; lessen the impact on MPGs, unsprung weight.

Here is what I have so far, I am really considering 255/75. They should easily fit on stock suspension (pro)

The 255/75 seems like the sweet spot? 32”dia 6ply 10”wide 46lbs! 6lbs more than stock 265s and 1/2” taller. Compared to the 285 faulken (prob the most popular 285) which is also 32” 11”w 6ply is 62lbs!!!

To be honest the 285 KO2 isn’t that bad either. BUT.. I feel like the narrower tire would tuck up in the factory spare location much better! (+2 for improved ground clearance AND reliability; very OEM appearance)

255/80 would be nice but it appears to be ONLY available in load range E, 10ply. That is far to heavy and unnecessarily stiff for me.

What are your thoughts?
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I have 275/70r17 E KO2's now. You can feel the weight. My next tires will be 255/75r17 C. Lighter weight and less wind resistance. I'm looking at Cooper AT3.
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I have had the stock tires of course, the BFG 275 E's, and BFG 285 C's. I can tell you the 285 C's are the way to go unless you are wheeling in super rocky areas. Daily driving is a lot better with the softer ride and you get a little extra ground clearance and the good look of a 285. The BFG 285/70 C load is only 53 pounds each and you dont notice them near as much as the 275 E's as far as weight. It's a lot better ride for sure. Its night and day. E load is too much for our 4runners unless you are wheeling in extreme areas. I definitely wouldnt go 255!

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I have a 4th gen, but I’ve been very happy with my Yokohama Geolandar G015 A/T tires in 255/75r17. They’re light (41 lbs, SL rated) and pretty quiet. I have them mounted on 5th gen 7” rims.

Stock tires on the 4th gen (265/65r17) are only 30.6”, so 32.1” height tires are a bigger difference than they are for 5th gens.

I have a 3” suspension lift and a 1” body lift, and the 32” tires fill up the wheel wells nicely.

My “winter” tires are the Toyo Open Country AT2 in 255/80/17, but they’re load range E like you said.

The 255s are very popular on the 4th gens.
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I have 275/70r17 E KO2's now. You can feel the weight. My next tires will be 255/75r17 C. Lighter weight and less wind resistance. I'm looking at Cooper AT3.

For some strange reason the K02 275 weights more than the 285...

Strange. 275 is also a size I am interested in. Slight increase in sidewall height, low impact on weight(other than the K02), not trimming on stock setup.
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I have had the stock tires of course, the BFG 275 E's, and BFG 285 C's. I can tell you the 285 C's are the way to go unless you are wheeling in super rocky areas. Daily driving is a lot better with the softer ride and you get a little extra ground clearance and the good look of a 285. The BFG 285/70 C load is only 53 pounds each and you dont notice them near as much as the 275 E's as far as weight. It's a lot better ride for sure. Its night and day. E load is too much for our 4runners unless you are wheeling in extreme areas. I definitely wouldnt go 255!

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I like the 285s but it seems as a DD there is to much compromise.

Heavy, they will fit in spare location but just barely also hang down slightly lower. And the big thing, trimming..

I like the 275s I think that will be my second choice.

I was just thinking 255 are a win. You get the height of a 275 with the weight of a 265. They are skinnier and should fit up in the spare location very nice. And I think that is a stock Wrangler size; should be easy to find a replacement..
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The 275 is a great size they are just stiff and heavy. I drive off-road but not hardcore stuff. Like most, I agree, E load tires are overkill for these rigs. For overall DD use, the C load 255 works very well and is gaining in popularity.

I only have a few thousand miles on my 275's so it will be a while before they are replaced. I just wish I had gone 255 C load first. The Geolander 255 is also on my short list.

Yes, they are a stock Wrangle size. It's what I had on my 2012 JK.
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255/75/17 is a great size, I ran them for a couple years on my V6 and the V8 at lighter weight.

I just switched them out yesterday for a set of 285's. My V8 has gotten heavy (Bumpers, RTT, Drawers, etc...) and I decided to move to a beefier tire.

I'm currently selling the 255's I pulled off if you're interested in trying out a low-cost bolt-on option. They have several years of life left!

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IMHO the 255/75 and 275/70 are perfect sizes for the 4R. I ran both on my '07 GX470, and came to favor the 255's.

Your usage sounds about like mine: no hardcore wheeling but forest roads, moderate trails, daily driving, and beach. I never had an issue airing down the 255's to ~15psi on the NC Outer Banks.

The 255's drive and handle well: you maintain great feel, they react quickly to inputs, and in my experience the narrower profile was much less likely to hydroplane than the 275's (or even 265/70r17's I also had).

That they're lighter and fit the spare location are significant bonuses.

Not going to comment on your brands due to inexperience with them, but I ran Cooper AT3's in 255 - they were terrible in every manner so I returned them for Hankook Dynapro ATm's. The Hankooks may have been the best all-round tire I ever ran, but the old design has been retired (and I'm not crazy about the new design). Now looking at Toyo Open Country AT in this size to replace near-new 265/75r17 BFG AT KO2's in Load C the previous owner installed.
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IMHO the 255/75 and 275/70 are perfect sizes for the 4R. I ran both on my '07 GX470, and came to favor the 255's.

Your usage sounds about like mine: no hardcore wheeling but forest roads, moderate trails, daily driving, and beach. I never had an issue airing down the 255's to ~15psi on the NC Outer Banks.
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Nice! We try to vacation in Corolla every year! Love it.

Seems like unfortunately KO2s are the only (decent) 255/75. Not that it’s a bad thing. It’s prob the most popular tire for many ways in a row.
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Nice! We try to vacation in Corolla every year! Love it.

Seems like unfortunately KO2s are the only (decent) 255/75. Not that it’s a bad thing. It’s prob the most popular tire for many ways in a row.
My wife and I joke every year about the number of Ohioans on the OBX. ;) (I'm allowed to joke, native Ohioan here)

Seems there's some very good options in 255/75r17 these days. Not a fan of the BFG AT's, but I understand why they're so popular. Just wish there were more Load Range C 255's, the newish Bridgestone AT's I ran just didn't do it for me - primarily in rain, otherwise they were "good."
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My wife and I joke every year about the number of Ohioans on the OBX. ;) (I'm allowed to joke, native Ohioan here)

Seems there's some very good options in 255/75r17 these days. Not a fan of the BFG AT's, but I understand why they're so popular. Just wish there were more Load Range C 255's, the newish Bridgestone AT's I ran just didn't do it for me - primarily in rain, otherwise they were "good."
No worries! I love it there. If I can figure out the zoning laws of Corolla/Carova area, wife and I want to buy land to take 4x4 camper there! Long story short, have electric and well hook ups and maybe some kind of shed the house the electrical panel and beach chairs and stuff. Also like a 10'x15' pad made from RR ties or something natural (I can only imagine the cost to have concrete delivered up there) to park the truck on when we are there.

We also laugh at the amount of people in Ohio with Salt Life stickers on their cars... lol.

anyhow, back to topic... if BFG isn't your first pick, what do you suggest for a 255/75? seems the "big players" don't make a decent AT 255... it seems either a road/light truck or mud tires are the choices.
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No worries! I love it there. If I can figure out the zoning laws of Corolla/Carova area, wife and I want to buy land to take 4x4 camper there! Long story short, have electric and well hook ups and maybe some kind of shed the house the electrical panel and beach chairs and stuff. Also like a 10'x15' pad made from RR ties or something natural (I can only imagine the cost to have concrete delivered up there) to park the truck on when we are there.

We also laugh at the amount of people in Ohio with Salt Life stickers on their cars... lol.

anyhow, back to topic... if BFG isn't your first pick, what do you suggest for a 255/75? seems the "big players" don't make a decent AT 255... it seems either a road/light truck or mud tires are the choices.
In no particular order, I am looking at:
  • Firestone Destination XT
  • Kumho Road Venture AT
  • Hankook Dynapro ATm 2
  • Cooper Discoverer AT
  • Kenda Klever AT2

The Firestone and Kumho are my top 2 choices so far, as they're both Load Range C. Some local friends run the Kumho and have had great experiences. While the Bridgestone Revo AT3 is also C rated, I ran that tire before and wasn't supercrazy with it, so I'll pass this time. The Kenda is one worth watching, hearing a lot of good things about their RT so hoping this one is good too.

Sounds as if you have quite the plan for OBX! I have no idea if what you're thinking is feasible or allowed, but damn I hope it works out. We primarily go south, down toward Hatteras, Buxton, Frisco, Avon - so peaceful and relaxed down there, and uncrowded (and awesome camping). But up north is much more stable in terms of storm impact and shifting sands, makes a lot more sense as a permanent place. Best of luck with it!
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I just stumbled on Goodyear DuraTracs. Seems interesting..

255/75 32” dia 10”w 40lbs!! SL load rating , guessing that is similar to stock.
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I just stumbled on Goodyear DuraTracs. Seems interesting..

255/75 32” dia 10”w 40lbs!! SL load rating , guessing that is similar to stock.
I have these and was going to bring it up as well. They're great so far (don't do much for hard offroad stuff, but mostly forest roads, etc.) Weight was absolutely fantastic and they ride really well. Wish they came in a C Rating, but for some reason the load capacity is actually more than some of the C rated tires I was looking at. Not a lot of options in this size with C rating, and hardly any in a 275/70. Oh, and when I got them they were like $70 cheaper per corner than the BFG
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