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Old 02-25-2022, 02:26 PM #1
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First few hundred on the Wrangler Territory MT

285/70/17 load range C

BLUF- so far, so good. Drives and rides well, good traction.

Picking tires is always tough, and is almost always subjective...my opinions are no different.

Ive had extensive experience -all of it categorically terrible- with BFG tires, which over the years lead me to other tires like the ATX, Duratrac, Coopers, and the WildPeak; all of which I had good luck with. I'm largely brand agnostic, and concerned more about durability and performance. So when my lift went on to my 4Runner a few days ago, I was looking at those tires again, but this time I was also adding in the concern of weight, because the 4runner isn't a turbo diesel from all the land cruisers. The C range tires on the market weren't much lighter than their E range counter parts, so it drifted down the priorities. I also wanted more of a hybrid terrain tire vs a pure AT or MT, so I settled on the Duratrac.

Well, the change (whenever it was) to a 2 ply sidewall made me question the durability against sidewall cuts, so I ruled it out. It was down to the the ATX or the WildPeak, until I saw the Territory MT from the Bronco. Goodyear store locally didn't have any information, but TireRack informed me that it was a 3 ply sidewall 2 polyester and 1 polymid.

Turns out, they were wrong. It's just a 2 ply sidewall, the tread is 2 steel, 2 polyester, and 1 polymid. So, not what I wanted, but the 45lb weight for the 33" tire has to come from somewhere. I'm wasn't happy about that, but I'm going to keep them on.

So far, my first few hundred miles have covered highway, city, curved mountain passes, light and heavy rain, and light trail use of dirt, gravel, and mud. The tires have so far performed really well across the board, consistent with a true hybrid tread design tire. I expected a little squirrely behavior on the freshly rained pavement, but it wasn't there. The siping and rubber compound lead to great results, to include hard breaking.

On trail, they do a good job of not carrying too many stones in the tread, and then only in the center "at" portion of the tread pattern. Traction Offroad has been excellent thus far, but admittedly nothing challenging yet.

Once nice part about the tires is their comparatively light weight. The truck doesn't have any problems with pick up or hills, and the transmission isn't noticeably any "busier" on highway drives through the hills than it was stock.

In terms of drive feel, they corner and stop very well even in the wet. And steering wheel feed back and noise are minimal given the tread void. The noise that does come in is a low hum, doesn't increase in pitch with speed, and at worst has to be picked out of the "background" of sounds from the TRD exhaust and wind/road noise. A little louder than a quiet AT, but nowhere near the noise of a full MT.

Tires went on and balanced easily.

My only concern is the durability of a 2 ply sidewall, but if they prove reliable, they may well be a goldilocks tire combining good road manners, good traction off road, with light weight....just what these trucks need imo.
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Finally someone grabbed these up and installed! Super helpful, thank you!

I have Toyo AT3 with about 20k on them and noisy already and wearing fast in the P metric side, prob because I should have done C with all my gear.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is a tire for manufacturers to use as OE on MTX and other new trucks and not so much the aftermarket.....something to keep in mind when choosing tires....
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The DuraTracs are better than any AT I have tried but get loud after maybe 10K-15K miles...too loud for me. I wonder if these are quieter. The KO2s are relatively quiet. So the thing about plies is interesting. I understand that it basically is a measure of thickness nowadays, long after the days of actual plies. For some reason though, some sidewalls are less dense. Maybe the tire tread is too. The DuraTracs are softer (and also better on rocks and snow) but darn that noise level is not great. It starts out pretty quiet but then progresses to a MT-like sound (the MTRs are quieter or at least not as howly, though the MTRs are the quietest MT).
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@KiwiKurt - any update on how these are wearing? I need new tires and Territory MT and Toyo OC AT3 are my top 2 due to their weight.
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@KiwiKurt - any update on how these are wearing? I need new tires and Territory MT and Toyo OC AT3 are my top 2 due to their weight.
Just FYSA, I recently sold my 4Runner to go back to a fullsize truck.

I got about 10k into the Territory and have nothing but great things to say about them. They did really, really well. A bit louder than an AT would be my only complaint, but their performance on road and off was superb. Tread blocks showed no signs of significant or premature wear, drove straight, and balanced easily.

I wouldn't hesitate to run another set.
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