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Old 06-04-2024, 01:19 PM #1
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Toyo Open Country AT3 Wet Traction Issues

Just wanted to post my concerning experience with the Toyo Open Country AT3s. I loved these tires for almost the entire time I had them. Bought them from Discount Tire in March of 2021. Found them to be great in all conditions including highway, wet, snow, etc. Did 5-tire rotations roughly every 5000 miles or so. In all I put about 45,000 miles on them. However in the last 10,000 miles I found the wet traction to be severely degraded. Had a few instances where they would cut loose immediately in the rain under very normal acceleration and one instance where I slid through an intersection at very low speed like I was on ice. These instances happened in Texas where wet roads are notoriously slick especially during a first rain after it's been dry for a while. The oils in the asphalt accumulate on the road surface and the rain makes things slick until the roads can be sufficiently "washed off". So I chalked it up to isolated incidents.

However, my wife was recently driving the rig on a drizzly morning on a windy road and in a mild bend the front tires completely let loose and she pushed through the bend and over a 50' embankment. Luckily she walked away with minor injuries, although our dog jumped out of the vehicle through a broken window and was lost in the wilderness for a week. But our beloved 3rd gen was totaled in the accident, which could have been much worse by several measures.

All that said, I've replayed the circumstances surrounding the accident over and over again, and based on my judgement, I feel like ultimately the tires were to blame here. Although the road conditions definitely played a part, my wife is a cautious driver and was traveling at a speed which, in my opinion, should have been sufficiently safe for the conditions and the road.

I'm putting this out there mainly as a warning for those running these tires to be aware of your wet weather traction, especially with age and miles. I can't say how much of my experience is specific to Texas and the road conditions specific to this area, But I found the wet weather traction problems I had with these tires to be very concerning.
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My brother just got a set of AT3's onto his truck, with xd wheels and new rotors. His wife can't stand the noise of Ridge grappler on the road. Going to mention to him about the wet traction.
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Glad no one got hurt. I had the P version set of Toyo AT 3s on a 2020 ORP for about 12K miles here in the Pac NW. Good in snow, but don't recall whether there was extra slippage on wet pavement. I was running them at 32 psi.

Eventually went to Yoko Geolander ATs which seemed fine as well (and very good in snow). Now in tire shopping again, seems like many ATs aren't highly rated in the category of stopping distances on wet pavement.
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We have quite a few people running these in Texas and dont hear of a ton of issues. I did hear these do wonderfully in cold/snow weather...

What Tires were you running before?
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Just wanted to post my concerning experience with the Toyo Open Country AT3s. I loved these tires for almost the entire time I had them. Bought them from Discount Tire in March of 2021. Found them to be great in all conditions including highway, wet, snow, etc. Did 5-tire rotations roughly every 5000 miles or so. In all I put about 45,000 miles on them. However in the last 10,000 miles I found the wet traction to be severely degraded. Had a few instances where they would cut loose immediately in the rain under very normal acceleration and one instance where I slid through an intersection at very low speed like I was on ice. These instances happened in Texas where wet roads are notoriously slick especially during a first rain after it's been dry for a while. The oils in the asphalt accumulate on the road surface and the rain makes things slick until the roads can be sufficiently "washed off". So I chalked it up to isolated incidents.

However, my wife was recently driving the rig on a drizzly morning on a windy road and in a mild bend the front tires completely let loose and she pushed through the bend and over a 50' embankment. Luckily she walked away with minor injuries, although our dog jumped out of the vehicle through a broken window and was lost in the wilderness for a week. But our beloved 3rd gen was totaled in the accident, which could have been much worse by several measures.

All that said, I've replayed the circumstances surrounding the accident over and over again, and based on my judgement, I feel like ultimately the tires were to blame here. Although the road conditions definitely played a part, my wife is a cautious driver and was traveling at a speed which, in my opinion, should have been sufficiently safe for the conditions and the road.

I'm putting this out there mainly as a warning for those running these tires to be aware of your wet weather traction, especially with age and miles. I can't say how much of my experience is specific to Texas and the road conditions specific to this area, But I found the wet weather traction problems I had with these tires to be very concerning.
Thank you for sharing your experience. I’m really sorry to hear about the terrible accident you and your family went through. It’s a relief that your wife only suffered minor injuries, and I’m glad to hear that you eventually found your dog. Situations like this are definitely unsettling.

I’ve driven in similar road conditions, especially on slippery roads like the ones in Texas, and it’s easy to underestimate the risks. Hearing how the performance of these tires significantly declined with mileage is an important reminder for others using them. Often, we might overlook how aging and wear can impact a tire’s wet weather performance.

If you’re considering replacing the tires, it might be worth looking into brands or models that are specifically known for better performance in wet conditions. I’d also recommend checking out long-term feedback from other drivers when making a decision. Hopefully, others reading your post will take this as a cue to inspect their own tires, particularly if they are running the same model.

Thank you again for sharing this cautionary tale, and I hope you and your family can recover fully from this experience.
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