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Old 10-21-2020, 02:12 AM #331
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finished my lift today and used these brackets. Excellent product. Gad I went this route, now to sell my unused adjustable bar ( cant return , had too long on shelf)
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Does the housing bracket make contact with the frame crossmember at full articulation?
Do you have kits in stock?
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@eimkeith Sorry if this question has been covered before or in an FAQ somewhere but here goes: why are the spacer washers for the frame side mount so small? They fit the ID and thickness nicely but are much smaller than the diameter of the panhard bushing. It basically makes the bushing flanges useless. Can I just use bigger washers? They may need to be trimmed down to use the center hole which has a step on the inside as it transitions from the frame to the welded bracket.
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Finished my PCK install. Great work on these brackets!

I am pretty sure I need to use the middle hole on the frame side. Panhard is dead level at this position but the vehicle is unloaded. Extra bolts shown have internal sleeves to add a bit of stiffness.



I wasn't happy with the step on the inside of the center hole. I understand cutting a chord out off the side of a washer but I wanted enough area to ensure the bushing can bear against a completely flat surface. So I made some trapezoidal adapter shims from 12ga steel.





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I wasn't happy with the step on the inside of the center hole. I understand cutting a chord out off the side of a washer but I wanted enough area to ensure the bushing can bear against a completely flat surface. So I made some trapezoidal adapter shims from 12ga steel.

Good thinking. I may borrow your idea.
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If I'm putting 1" lift springs on the rear of mine (icon) would this kit be beneficial at all? Not sure if leaving it stock vs putting it at 2" lift location would be the same amount of "off" or if it would actually help at all.

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If I'm putting 1" lift springs on the rear of mine (icon) would this kit be beneficial at all? Not sure if leaving it stock vs putting it at 2" lift location would be the same amount of "off" or if it would actually help at all.

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It really depends on your actual lift height at the load you typically carry. You'd need to measure from the ground to the center of the panhard bolt on each side and determine that delta - that will tell you if you can use correction.

(I don't like the axle end of the bar to be above the frame end of the bar.)
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@eimkeith Sorry if this question has been covered before or in an FAQ somewhere but here goes: why are the spacer washers for the frame side mount so small? They fit the ID and thickness nicely but are much smaller than the diameter of the panhard bushing. It basically makes the bushing flanges useless. Can I just use bigger washers? They may need to be trimmed down to use the center hole which has a step on the inside as it transitions from the frame to the welded bracket.
Hey, sorry, just saw this. The spacer is sized for the sleeve, not the bushing. The bushing should be able to give & flex somewhat during articulation.
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It really depends on your actual lift height at the load you typically carry. You'd need to measure from the ground to the center of the panhard bolt on each side and determine that delta - that will tell you if you can use correction.

(I don't like the axle end of the bar to be above the frame end of the bar.)
Thank you! I will take some measurements both before and after on my lift and go from there.
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Dumb question, is it mandatory to install both sides of the PCK on a 2” lift? Or is just the driver side good enough?
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Dumb question, is it mandatory to install both sides of the PCK on a 2” lift? Or is just the driver side good enough?
Depends on how level your panhard is with just the driver side bracket. Once I get my ome 906 installed on my 01, I plan on only using the driver side bracket because with the measurements I've taken, my panhard will be close to level & if I use the center hole on the passenger bracket, my panhard will be close to unlevel the other direction with the usual stuff I carry. If you use the center hole on the passenger side bracket you'll have to do a little grinding/filing on the bottom of the frame side mount to have full access of the center hole.

On my 02, I followed Jziggy's lead and made shims to have a flush surface due to the little step the frame side mount creates within the bracket. You could cut the washers in half for the center hole but the benefit of making shims is at creates a larger surface area for the panhard bushings.

Tip, when determining which hole setting to use on the bracket, do it with your usual weight.

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Hey, sorry, just saw this. The spacer is sized for the sleeve, not the bushing. The bushing should be able to give & flex somewhat during articulation.
So the side flanges of the bushings are irrelevant in operation?
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Yeah, just need to support the sleeve - the bar needs to twist a bit through its arc.
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Yeah, just need to support the sleeve - the bar needs to twist a bit through its arc.
Thanks for the clarification. The Whiteline bushings have side flanges that contact the walls of the bracket. My assumption was that they should be supported. Also, if your bushings have this design and you install with only the sleeve spacers then the bushing flanges will be halfway in contact with the walls and also a sharp edge at the width transition. Could that cause damage to the bushing in operation?
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The Whiteline bushings have side flanges that contact the walls of the bracket. My assumption was that they should be supported. Also, if your bushings have this design and you install with only the sleeve spacers then the bushing flanges will be halfway in contact with the walls and also a sharp edge at the width transition. Could that cause damage to the bushing in operation?
Could you post a picture of the bushings you're using?

EDIT - I see a photo above. Is the face of the bushing completely flat? I'd probably still just support the sleeve, to give the bushing flanges more room before they're pinched between the mount and the bar end when it twists, but if you're still on jack stands you can check the amount of squish pretty easily by pulling the shocks & springs and moving the axle through its various arcs. The WL bushing flange may have enough room with the plates your using - but you'd need to put an eyeball on it to verify.
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