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I already do all my own wrenching at my home in San Jose. I also make repair videos with my buddy Sean. Here's a link to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9E...y61kJ6hdXcbjxA
I do agree that learning about auto mechanics and taking the challenge is interesting and rewarding. It's one of the reasons I got into it. But, for many, their main motivator for doing their own work is out of necessity to save themselves the high labor rates shops charge. At $45/hour, you're still saving but then you have to ask how much your time is worth. I know most DIY mechanics like myself will take longer to do a repair, maintenance job or modification than a shop would take because many times it's our first time doing something and we're learning as we go. So now, the total savings will be even less compared to what a shop will charge.
I'm guessing other parts of the country have hourly shop rates much more affordable than we have in the California Bay Area.
Anyway, that's my pragmatic 2 cent opinion.
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great concerns, when my garage & property are done I'll be renting it out to DIY's also. It will help with the mortgage & property tax.
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04-07-2018, 05:02 PM
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great concerns, when my garage & property are done I'll be renting it out to DIY's also. It will help with the mortgage & property tax.
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Nice Out-Building. Are you going to install a lift? I wish I had a space like that other than my overcrowded garage. Share some pics when you get it all set-up.
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04-07-2018, 05:26 PM
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Nice Out-Building. Are you going to install a lift? I wish I had a space like that other than my overcrowded garage. Share some pics when you get it all set-up.
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Yep, have two lifts ready to go in from friends. I'll probably just install the better one but we'll see. I also have two mechanic friends who want to put tools in there because they have no storage. I'd like to keep it strictly Toyota trucks, lifts, offroad stuff but I have some neighbors into hot rods & I've always wanted a 69 Cougar convt.
It's on 1/2 acre next to my house.
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04-07-2018, 05:49 PM
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Andrew,
This is a great idea BUT.....
I visited your site, but there seems to be an issue, I enter my zip code, I live in the SE USA and it shows garages everywhere from California and all points in between and none seemly in order as to distance from me with nothing even close to me at first glance.
What good is your site's search engine if I have to search through all the garages to possibly find one close to me?
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04-07-2018, 06:12 PM
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Andrew,
This is a great idea BUT.....
I visited your site, but there seems to be an issue, I enter my zip code, I live in the SE USA and it shows garages everywhere from California and all points in between and none seemly in order as to distance from me with nothing even close to me at first glance.
What good is your site's search engine if I have to search through all the garages to possibly find one close to me?
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Thanks for the feedback, Skip.
Since we are a new company, it's very possible that we don't have a garage by you yet. Our search function is setup to show the garages nearest your location first, so I'll pass this along to get looked at.
Our map function will give you a quick idea if there is a garage in your area
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04-07-2018, 06:36 PM
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Thanks, yes nothing within 400 miles from me, I didn't see an option for distance to my location when doing the location search, maybe I didn't see it but I did just look again, if not maybe adding that or making it easier to find will help to see the location closest to that of a user of your site, I'll bookmark your site and check back from time to time.
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04-07-2018, 07:10 PM
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Yep, have two lifts ready to go in from friends. I'll probably just install the better one but we'll see. I also have two mechanic friends who want to put tools in there because they have no storage. I'd like to keep it strictly Toyota trucks, lifts, offroad stuff but I have some neighbors into hot rods & I've always wanted a 69 Cougar convt.
It's on 1/2 acre next to my house.
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Very cool. Maybe one day I'll have a piece of property big enough to do the same thing.
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04-07-2018, 10:29 PM
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great concerns, when my garage & property are done I'll be renting it out to DIY's also. It will help with the mortgage & property tax.
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Can I swing by in my YJ?
Great idea OP!
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04-08-2018, 11:33 AM
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To clarify, we don't have our own shop. We are a platform that allows garages to list their space. Think Airbnb for DIY workspace.
We actually have a shop listed outside of Baltimore, so you may not even need to move here to wrench! you can find here.
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I'm moving to get away from this place, lol.
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04-08-2018, 11:48 AM
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Pretty neat idea. Especially if you can get more locations.
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04-08-2018, 12:15 PM
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Can I swing by in my YJ?
Great idea OP!
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My first thought is to say no but my mechanic friends races Jeeps in PA on the weekends so I'll have to let them in.
Maybe someday I'll get to restore a FJ 40...but I also want a 66 Caddy convt & a 67 gto & a 70 Buick GS. I need to hit lotto. LOL
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04-08-2018, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mtbtim
At $45/hour, you're still saving but then you have to ask how much your time is worth. I know most DIY mechanics like myself will take longer to do a repair, maintenance job or modification than a shop would take because many times it's our first time doing something and we're learning as we go. So now, the total savings will be even less compared to what a shop will charge.
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I like the idea, but price point would be the deal breaker for me. I'm slow and methodical. I do vehicle maintenance because I enjoy it, and because I have to -- or at least because it saves money. If I have to rush, it's no longer fun. In this situation, if I take my time, there's no cost savings.
I'd probably be more interested if it was a membership kind of thing. Monthly dues, book your time, etc..
Good luck with the business -- I really love the idea. I guess I'm just not the target demo.
Thank you for sponsoring T4R!
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04-08-2018, 12:31 PM
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I like the idea, but price point would be the deal breaker for me. I'm slow and methodical. I do vehicle maintenance because I enjoy it, and because I have to -- or at least because it saves money. If I have to rush, it's no longer fun. In this situation, if I take my time, there's no cost savings.
I'd probably be more interested if it was a membership kind of thing. Monthly dues, book your time, etc..
Good luck with the business -- I really love the idea. I guess I'm just not the target demo.
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Thanks for the reply and thoughts! A number of garages on our platform do offer memberships with an unlimited amount of wrench time.
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04-08-2018, 12:37 PM
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I agree with the price. Most DIY guys will take twice the time of a shop mechanic. I've done it a dozen times but a brake job still takes me about 2 hours. Time cost would equal the shop rate or surpass it for some things.
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04-08-2018, 01:37 PM
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I agree with the price. Most DIY guys will take twice the time of a shop mechanic. I've done it a dozen times but a brake job still takes me about 2 hours. Time cost would equal the shop rate or surpass it for some things.
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+1
I like the idea, but price point would be the deal breaker for me. I'm slow and methodical. I do vehicle maintenance because I enjoy it, and because I have to -- or at least because it saves money. If I have to rush, it's no longer fun. In this situation, if I take my time, there's no cost savings.
I'd probably be more interested if it was a membership kind of thing. Monthly dues, book your time, etc..
Good luck with the business -- I really love the idea. I guess I'm just not the target demo.
Thank you for sponsoring T4R!
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While $45 hr isn't a lot of money I can see where it cuts into saving by DIY. You wont have to buy the tools either if you're an apartment dweller. I lived in apartments for 15 years before I bought my house & had no room for tools. Remember that the owner has a lot of money in the building, tools, insurance, mortgage, property taxes, etc & cant give the space away for free. If you're a regular customer & it takes you 2 hrs to do brakes I might charge you $50 for the job instead of the hourly rate & you'll be hanging at a place with other gear heads willing to help each other out & you can make new friends. Probably more productive than hanging out at your local bar. If you live where there are severe winters you dont want to be working outside when it's 20* especially if it's your only car & need it for work.
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