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Anybody watch "Gear Dogs" on the Velocity Channel? This guy has a restoration shop & then opened a communal work shop next door where locals can come in & work on their cars. He also partners with people with flips where they fix up collectables & sell them. I really like the show but it's not on much. The DVR is set, hopefully they have another season. It's where I got the idea for my garage. Mine will be more of a community gearhead hang out than a straight rental for strangers.

Edit: It looks like it originally aired on Discovery & they showed a few episodes in Velocity.

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I find this interesting so I looked for an available space in my area. There's one in my area (California Bay Area) in San Mateo, 27 miles away from me. They want $45/hour. The guy that runs the place says he will help which is cool, but who knows how good he is. There's also tools there you can use, but again, what if he's lacking a critical tool you need.

That seems pretty steep to me. For that price, you may as well just pay a shop to do it that charges around $100/hour and not have to spend the time wrenching. Another concern is what happens if you run into a snag and can't get your rig running or back together. I guess you'd then be forced to tow it out of there or continue to pay by the hour during their hours of operation.

I feel for people who like to do their own wrenching but don't have the space to do it in. Definitely one of the downsides to apartment living.
I was doing some very high end wood working for myself. friends were trying to convince me to go pro because I was producing better than professional furniture. I did take a couple of pay jobs to try it out. ouch man it took all the fun out of it. the time pressure was on and I had to deliver and try to make it profitable. it absolutely took 100% of the enjoyment out of it.

if I was on the clock, I would not do it.

slow as possible, fast as necessary.

I still think it's a great idea but... yea it seems risky because things come up and things hit the skids. happens almost all the time.

there was also an App ( aka platform) for hooking up woodworkers and shop space/tools. I tried it a couple of time... meh. was a lot more frustrating because most of the shops had crap tools or things were so dull it was dangerous cutting. took more time to get their tools dialed in and working then it was worth it.

this is a pretty standard biz model and lots of people are trying it... cook in our commercial kitchen, do all your meal prep and freeze your 2 weeks worth of dinners... I have seen tons of things like this. they pop and fizzle pretty quickly.
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My first thought is to say no but my mechanic friends races Jeeps in PA on the weekends so I'll have to let them in.

Maybe someday I'll get to restore a FJ 40...but I also want a 66 Caddy convt & a 67 gto & a 70 Buick GS. I need to hit lotto. LOL
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Intriguing idea! This one shop close to me, which looks super clean and has a lot of amenities (welders, etc), charges 175/mo, but that's pretty much it. Apparently it's like a gym membership, so you just book the time you need to be there.

I wonder if there are limits, like for instance, can I work on a project and leave the car there 3-4 days, would that be secure (no one messing with it, since they are after all open bays).

If you don't have a garage, like if you live in an apt or condo, this is really a great resource. I agree the hourly rates of 45 does seem a little off, but a membership setup seems a bit more fair if you can use it as much as you need.

I have a garage/workspace at home with pretty much every specialized tool I'd ever need for all my cars. However, I don't have a lift, so sometimes that can get a bit annoying. I know you can pick up some at-home-lifts, but storing it would be a hassle.

Also, being able to use a welder (and this place has classes too and apparently other experts that would be happy to teach/lend a hand) makes it more of a value proposition.

One thing I'm not a fan of are people renting out garages at home (esp if they live in a condo). That seems to be bad all around. I'm also curious as to what insurance coverage (if any) the garage and renters have.

BookGarageTime, PM me, I'm a moderator for another board and a member of several others, might be able to work something out with you.
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A garage with the lift and power tools etc will cut the time of any job by cosiderable amount.. we used to rent garages for our street racers and work on them. depends on the job sawping engines, tranny suspension most guys don't have the budget to buy tools to do the job.for me time is worth the money for others it might not be.
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You know, I had this thought that 45/hr for space AND tools actually isn't that much. For many people that don't have access to a personal garage, they probably aren't sitting on a vault of tools either. Especially if it's specialized. Yes you could rent them from Autozone, but having access to them right there saves so much time.

That definitely increases the value proposition. Plus the comradery, etc. hard to put a price on that.

I might just rent one one day to try it out.
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Neat idea! Hopefully a few show up close to me one day. Trying to do a power steering hose in my driveway in Jan @ 0 degrees sucked.
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Iíll race your GS against my 442 but first I also need to win the lottery.
I love the Olds 442 because they go for less than the rare Chevy's & Fords. Pontiac's are cheaper too. You'll never see me in a Camaro or Mustang, there are so many more unique muscle cars out there.
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Neat idea! Hopefully a few show up close to me one day. Trying to do a power steering hose in my driveway in Jan @ 0 degrees sucked.
Hey Steve, we're in a couple of local Toyota FB groups together. Hopefully my garage will be up & running by the end of the summer. You can bring that LC over anytime.
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My first thought is to say no but my mechanic friends races Jeeps in PA on the weekends so I'll have to let them in.

Maybe someday I'll get to restore a FJ 40...but I also want a 66 Caddy convt & a 67 gto & a 70 Buick GS. I need to hit lotto. LOL
Dig your style. My dream list include a 1959 Impala convertible, 1962 Cadillac Eldorado convertible and a 1969 Dodge Charger. I also need to hit the lotto!
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I find this interesting so I looked for an available space in my area. There's one in my area (California Bay Area) in San Mateo, 27 miles away from me. They want $45/hour. The guy that runs the place says he will help which is cool, but who knows how good he is. There's also tools there you can use, but again, what if he's lacking a critical tool you need.

That seems pretty steep to me. For that price, you may as well just pay a shop to do it that charges around $100/hour and not have to spend the time wrenching. Another concern is what happens if you run into a snag and can't get your rig running or back together. I guess you'd then be forced to tow it out of there or continue to pay by the hour during their hours of operation.

I feel for people who like to do their own wrenching but don't have the space to do it in. Definitely one of the downsides to apartment living.
That is why you get your own lift in your garage.

10F 3IN ceiling only garage here, got a low ceiling lift (9FT 3IN) for 2800$ canadian delivered/installed/tax included, worth around 2000$ american. Can get the truck high enough to work on it comfortably.

Cost just a bit more than the quickjacks (2400$ canadian) I had bought before that lift only 18 inches.
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Hey Steve, we're in a couple of local Toyota FB groups together. Hopefully my garage will be up & running by the end of the summer. You can bring that LC over anytime.
Nice! Keep me updated, be cool to meet up sometime! It’s just a quick hop through the onion fields, lol
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I really like this idea and would love to have people over to use the garage - it would be fun helping out on the projects. Considered it but got concerned over insurance (damage to building, equipment and folks hurting themselves) and tools walking off. I think the places that do this commercially have trained techs on site all the time that monitor the activity - probably the only way you could ever get insurance and I bet it would be expensive. You would need to have people sign a release but that wouldn't keep them from suing you. Unfortunately, the lawyers have screwed up everything......

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