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Old 02-24-2012, 12:19 PM #31
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Thanks it is a jayfeather sport 197. What model do you have?
Oops, I thought I replied to this, sorry for the lateness.

Mine's a Jayfeather 197 also, but a 2008, apparantly they've changed a few things since then.
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This trailer is amazing. Can you trailer with the trailer extended? Thanks!

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This trailer is amazing. Can you trailer with the trailer extended? Thanks!
No, it must be down.

The Trailmanor uses aircraft tech to produce a trailer that is half the weight of an ordinary trailer of the same size. It is constructed with two pieces of aluminum sandwiching polystyrene (light and super strong). There is no wood used at all. I keep it in my driveway and it will fit in a standard garage. It is 18' long with swing hitch used and 27' opened. It has ALL the goodies and is VERY plush/comfortable. Trailmanor's only use the top components. This trailer can be used in any climates (Alaska to the beach in the Keys). No one else makes anything like it. It is a little pricy but it is worth every penny!

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I pull our 1971 23' Airstream Safari with my 2008 T4R V8 4WD. I use a ProPride 3P hitch for WD. The 4Runner pulls the trailer very well for our needs. If I towed throughout the mountains of Colorado I'd buy a used 5.7L Tundra or an F250 diesel just for towing, but I sure as hell wouldn't give up my 4runner. I love my truck!

I attend yearly music festivals in Kansas and elsewhere and the Airstream (his name is Moe) is perfect for our needs.

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Here's my 4th Gen V6 towing our 2011 Jayco Pop up. Compared to my old 2nd Gen that I used to tow my 14' Lund full of camping gear. I barely notice it back there I also use a Tekonsha P3 brake controller...
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I pull our 1971 23' Airstream Safari with my 2008 T4R V8 4WD. I use a ProPride 3P hitch for WD. The 4Runner pulls the trailer very well for our needs. If I towed throughout the mountains of Colorado I'd buy a used 5.7L Tundra or an F250 diesel just for towing, but I sure as hell wouldn't give up my 4runner. I love my truck!

I attend yearly music festivals in Kansas and elsewhere and the Airstream (his name is Moe) is perfect for our needs.

Haha, an Airstream! Thats awesome! How much does something like that weigh? I got a special place in my heart for vintage campers. Problem is most of them are too heavy for my 4Runner to pull on a long trip.
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That Airstream is in great shape for 40+ years old, Has the interior been cared for as well as the exterior has? Airstream still makes great campers although they are quite expensive, at a recent RV show I attended they where selling for about $45000 in the mid 20 foot range.
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Haha, an Airstream! Thats awesome! How much does something like that weigh? I got a special place in my heart for vintage campers. Problem is most of them are too heavy for my 4Runner to pull on a long trip.
Thanks! It weighs 3400 pounds dry with a tongue weight of 400 pounds. It pulls pretty darn well all things considered. I wouldn't pull one longer than 23' or one weighing more. Loaded down with camping supplies it's closer to 4k pounds. I don't travel with water in the fresh water tank - that's just too much weight.

On my last trip out to Kansas from Georgia I averaged 11 mpg.

I've thought about selling the Safari and buying a mid '60's bambi, which weigh less than 2k pounds, but I've put a lot of work on our AS (his name is Moe - we bought him in Missouri - MO). He's pretty darn cool.
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That Airstream is in great shape for 40+ years old, Has the interior been cared for as well as the exterior has? Airstream still makes great campers although they are quite expensive, at a recent RV show I attended they where selling for about $45000 in the mid 20 foot range.
Thanks! The folks we purchased it from in Missouri in 2009 really did a fine job of caring for it. The inside was very clean considering it's a 41 year old trailer that has been toted down the road a bunch. It has been used and loved. It's pretty cool. Doesn't get much better than that IMO.
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Glad I found this link. I have an 05 V6 4x4, and pull a Dutchman 1204 12' pop-up. I have a 3 inch lift, and 32" tires on stock wheels. I have installed a cold-air kit, and a TRD cat-back exhaust. I live in Arizona, and I have to travel up the mountains most every time I want to camp. With everything loaded, my truck struggles pretty much all the time. From the time I drop it on the hitch, OD is off, or its 60mph on the flat highways. With OD off, it tows ok, but as soon as I point it up a hill, it's workin really hard. I can't just sell it and get a V8, nor can I afford a supercharger. 99% of the time, its the wifes familymobile. On camping weekends it the TV. I'm trying to see what options are out there to help this thing up the hills. Any medium hill, I'm at 3500 rpm, buzzin in 3rd with the AC off. Any STEEP hill, I'm in 2nd gear. Is this what all of you guys are doing too? Going up the hills stresses me out cuz I feel like Im wringin its neck to maintain any speed. Now, Im climbing from 1500 to 7-8000 feet, so it's pretty steep. I was thinking a gear change may help offset the tire size change, and help with the hills. Anyone have any mods that work for them? Performance chip... gear change... turbo? lol




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BTW - does hitch weight affect towing? How do you change it? Mine sits heavy on the hitch. I try to load the weight to the back of the PU, but it just seems as the axle is too far back to make a difference. Thanks
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BTW - does hitch weight affect towing? How do you change it? Mine sits heavy on the hitch. I try to load the weight to the back of the PU, but it just seems as the axle is too far back to make a difference. Thanks
Do you know how much that pop-up weighs? Or how much weight is actually on the hitch? If all you need to do is level the TV out some with the camper hooked up, I'd get a set of air springs in the back.
I pull a 3500lb camper with my '97 w/ 3.4 and a 5spd and really dont have much trouble pullin a hill in 4th at 60mph on some relatively steep hills. I'm only at about 500ft above sea level which I know helps greatly. Re-gearing might be your next step to keep the engine in its power band when towing. The only thing keeping me from a lift and bigger tires is the fact that it'll take away valuable power needed to tow without putting in new gears to compensate for the bigger tires.
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BTW - does hitch weight affect towing? How do you change it? Mine sits heavy on the hitch. I try to load the weight to the back of the PU, but it just seems as the axle is too far back to make a difference. Thanks
The general rule of thumb I have read about indicates that the hitch weight(actually amount of weight the tongue of the trailer places on the tow vehicle's hitch) should be between 10-15% of the total weight of the trailer. Having too much tongue weight will cause the rear of the tow vehicle to sag, and may exceed the tow vehicles tow ratings. Too little tongue weight can contribute to sway problems. The only way to tell for sure is going to a set of certified scales for proper measurements. If the tongue weight is within the specs for the trailer, and not too much for the hitch rating, and the rear of the tow vehicle is riding too low, then you may need heavier springs or air bags for the tow vehicle.
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Thanks! The folks we purchased it from in Missouri in 2009 really did a fine job of caring for it. The inside was very clean considering it's a 41 year old trailer that has been toted down the road a bunch. It has been used and loved. It's pretty cool. Doesn't get much better than that IMO.
Here's a vid that was playing at the RV show, not sure about the older Airstreams but makes their newer campers look ever better. Gotta keep the family safe eh.



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