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4th Gen towing mirror options
Lets get down to it!! as 4th genners know, we have NO options for tow mirrors. im talking REAL tow mirrors as in replacement. We just bought a new travel trailer and theres is nothing out there im fond of, Ive seen a couple taco with the dodge swing up version,but NOTHING for us. So I'm going to the next level, I'm going to find a mirror that will work. SO far Ive all 3 companies, and this is what I got, Fit System 62075GE Passenger Side Replacement Dual Mirror : Amazon.com : Automotive.
the base of our mirrors are 5.1/4 in the height 7/34 (triangle size)
I going to purchase 1 to see if I can make it work. Do you think it would be to BIG? Infp, opinions wanted......
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09-20-2012, 08:53 PM
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I also looked
My first traavel trailer was wide, and I was paranoid I couldn't see behind me or anything on the sides. Bought a couple of clamp/strap type mirrors and the results were not good. The plastic trim on the door interferes with proper fit . Also I bought one that clips and rubber straps to the existing mirror. It had enough vibration at highway speeds to be useless.
My new camper is much narrower and I don't need extended mirrors.
i think the best way to go in any case is a rear view system that works full time, With a decent size monitor on the dash or console, that can be easily removed when not being used, no hard wired baloney like most of the ones I've seen.
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10-24-2012, 09:10 PM
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tried reese they suck!!!!
going to buy these. great reviews JR Products
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lows 3000K fogs, Full interior LED, Weathertec, hydro-carbon delete, Black headlights,15% Tint front, 06/09 Led tails, Rear bumper turn signal mod, PIAA 540 W/custom front bumper floating mount,Gibson cat back.
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12-06-2012, 07:04 PM
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Did you have a chance to try the mirrors? I'm looking myself since I bought a new travel trailer.
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Review of JR and Tow-N-See mirrors
Since this thread ended without an answer about JR towing mirrors, and because I decided to try a pair, I thought I'd respond to it. Before getting to the JR mirrors, I'll describe our experience with another towing mirror, the Tow-N-See. We have a 2011 SR-5 4Runner and our current trailer is a Keystone Passport Ultra Light ML199 (about 21 feet long).
Unlike our prior camping trailer, the Passport is large enough to require towing mirrors. After reading several posts on this forum, I decided to try the "Tow-N-See" suction cup mirrors from Camco. I initially bought two of the flat mirrors. These have a small knob in the center for attaching them to the factory mirror. You clean and dry the factory mirror, hold the Tow-N-See suction cup on it and tighten the knob until the suction cup is holding securely. You can tighten the knob quite a bit; it seems like you could tighten it enough to break the factory mirror if not careful, although I never did. These mirrors obviously move with the factory mirror when you adjust it with the remote mirror control. The main disadvantage on the 2011 4Runner is that the factory mirror is inset quite deeply into the housing. Consequently, if you put the Tow-N-See near the outer edge of the factory mirror, you have to aim the factory mirror quite a lot "inward" so that the arm of the Tow-N-See does not interfere with the mirror housing. You wind up with the factory mirror showing a good view of the side of the 4Runner, but that isn't really helpful. You have to be careful when adjusting the factory mirror to avoid interference with the Tow-N-See.
A second problem we experienced with these mirrors occurs only on two lane roads with high (55-65 mph) speed limits. When passed by an oncoming semi, bus, motorhome or other large vehicle that was at or near the speed limit (as we were), the force of the air being compressed between the vehicles was enough to cause the the driver's side mirror to move inward a lot. If you push on the edge of a power mirror it has a clutch that allows it to move new position to avoid damage. The mirror is easily readjusted outward. On a recent trip through Canada around Lakes Huron and Superior we experienced this problem quite a bit. I'm not sure that this kind of punishment regularly inflicted is good for the power mirror.
The only time one of these flat mirrors fell off is when I failed to sufficiently clean and dry the factory mirrors before installation. This happened once when I was trying to install the mirrors during a rain shower. The Tow-N-See has a small "leash" that you wrap around the mirror housing so it won't hit the ground if the suction cup lets go. It works, and the mirror does not dent or scratch the car door.
After using the flat Tow-N-See mirrors, I decided to try a convex Tow-N-See for the passenger side. I could not find one locally so I bought one from Amazon. This one was a little different from the others in that the knob used to tighten the suction cup was not a small thing in the center of the mount, but was as wide as the mount itself. It also had another feature that has proven very undesirable. The knob seems to have a safety mechanism that is intended to avoid overtightening. When turned beyond a certain point, the knob suddenly clicks and goes from tight to very loose, as if there is a clutch of some sort. The problem is that it is a very finicky adjustment. Just about the time you think you have the thing tight enough, you hit the click and are back to square one. I had this one fall off frequently because it was probably 1/16 or 1/32 of a turn too loose.
I'd sum up the Tow-N-See mirrors by saying that they are OK, especially for occasional use, but I would avoid any that have the large mounting knob.
After using the Tow-N-See mirrors, I decided to try the JR mirrors to see if they might be an improvement. Our Toyota dealership had them for the same price as you can find on the Internet. We bought the smaller mirrors, the Aero2 model. My primary concern was that the mounting brackets would not fit in the very limited space between the factory mirror housing and the mirror itself. That has proven not to be a problem, at least if you mount the JR mirrors on the top of the factory mirror housing, as I have. You can adjust the factory mirrors with the JRs in place. The JRs come with some assembly required; you have to screw the mirror housings onto the mounting arms (one screw for each arm/mirror combination). You have to decide whether you are going to mount the mirrors above or below the factory housing before atttaching the mirrors to the arms. Both JR mirrors are identical. They seem to be flat or very slightly convex. They mounting arms are about as adjustable as it gets. After using them for about 100 miles of towing, I am quite happy with them. The JRs show no sign of loosening or falling off. The further you extend the mounting arm away from the factory mirror, the more vibration you get, but I haven't found the vibration to be a problem. Once the JRs are adjusted, they seem to hold the adjustment quite well, although we haven't had the opportunity to see if they will withstand the "oncoming semi on a two lane high speed road" test. They don't give much of a view directly behind the trailer, but you can see for a considerable distance along the sides of the trailer, even if you don't put the arms out as far as they will go. For me, they give a sufficient view to the rear that I can see what is in the lanes on either side of me for a good distance to the rear. So far, the only problem I can see with the JRs is that they come with a storage bag that is too short to accomodate the mounted mirrors unless you reverse the mirror housings on their arms; of course, if you do this, you have to re-aim the mirrors from scratch each time you mount them. I'll just forego use of the storage bag since it seems more trouble than it is worth.
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08-24-2013, 04:29 PM
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My solution to find something good was futile, there's a whole lot of junk out there that vibrates or is simply junk. I tried 3 or 4 options and returned them all. Finally I bought 4" concase mirrors and mounted them to the outside top of my mirrors with a 1/4" bolt. Yes, I drilled a hole in each one which a lot of people wouldn't do. The end result is that I have as good a visibility as I can get without an aftermarket camera setup.
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Originally Posted by KPINKY7
Lets get down to it!! as 4th genners know, we have NO options for tow mirrors. im talking REAL tow mirrors as in replacement. We just bought a new travel trailer and theres is nothing out there im fond of, Ive seen a couple taco with the dodge swing up version,but NOTHING for us. So I'm going to the next level, I'm going to find a mirror that will work. SO far Ive all 3 companies, and this is what I got, Fit System 62075GE Passenger Side Replacement Dual Mirror : Amazon.com : Automotive.
the base of our mirrors are 5.1/4 in the height 7/34 (triangle size)
I going to purchase 1 to see if I can make it work. Do you think it would be to BIG? Infp, opinions wanted......
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