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I have decided I like the logic of the skinnier taller tire I decided to go with LT235/85 Falken Wildpeak AT3W All Terrain they are the same height as the 265/75r16 the maximum height without a lift. The bonus they weightvabout the same as the stock size so i don't take a big hit on the gas millage front. They looked great. After mounting them I headed to Denver for 4 days of snow boarding. We drove into a blizzard and they felt great. We did a little off roading to. I feel overall having more weight per square inch at the contact patch provides better traction for a wider variety of conditions. For me that fits the 80/20 rule.
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04-19-2018, 01:08 PM
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Greater contact pressure is almost never a benefit offroad. If it was you'd max your tire pressure for offroading... think about that for a minute and you'll understand. If you lower your air pressure to go off road - you are lowering contact pressure. That is inconsistent with the claim that higher pressure is beneficial. Lower ground pressure is almost always better for offroad use. Yes, there are some rare anomalies, but that's a good general rule.
The trade off of taller OR wider is usually the case. In that case taller often is better than wider and shorter. But that's a very different question than whether wider tire of the same height is better. On the highway - where most miles are driven - narrow tires offer some advantages in lower rolling resistance, wind resistance, and less weight.
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04-20-2018, 02:33 PM
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04-21-2018, 08:05 PM
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Greater contact pressure is almost never a benefit offroad. If it was you'd max your tire pressure for offroading... think about that for a minute and you'll understand. If you lower your air pressure to go off road - you are lowering contact pressure. That is inconsistent with the claim that higher pressure is beneficial. Lower ground pressure is almost always better for offroad use. Yes, there are some rare anomalies, but that's a good general rule.
The trade off of taller OR wider is usually the case. In that case taller often is better than wider and shorter. But that's a very different question than whether wider tire of the same height is better. On the highway - where most miles are driven - narrow tires offer some advantages in lower rolling resistance, wind resistance, and less weight.
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I'm just as concerned, if not MORE concerned about traction ON road as I am about traction OFF road. I would love to go tall/skinny as they tend to weigh less and I can get some Jeep take offs for cheap.
But, in no time during my short 55 years on earth have I ever heard anyone talk about wanting more traction so they are going to put narrower tires on.
Looks like I'll be going with 285s
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04-23-2018, 01:09 PM
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I've been going back and forth over 255/75 or 80's vs 285/70s for my 3" lifted 4th gen. I really like the ideas behind the 255's but I want the tallest tire I can get with my lift and the only 80's they make are LR E which sounds like overkill for our trucks and is way too stiff of a tire with my already stiff OME lift.
My trauma comes from experience. I made the mistake of having a LR E tire on my 3rd gen with Tundra 5100s and I didn't realize how bad it was until I finally replaced my 5100s with softer valved Tacoma 5100s and with LR D Duratracs. The ride quality after that change was sublime and I vowed never to go back to LR E tires. That sort of leaves me at 285/70s now.
Or I might just drop down to a 255/75 and remove the .5" spacer up front on my lift and be done with it. I never had a problem wheeling in my 3rd gen with the 32" tires I had, and I don't plan on doing anything more aggressive than what I ever did with that truck.
You guys with lifts and 255's, do you add wheel spacers to offset the tippier increased ride height? The PO of my 4th gen gave me a set of brand new spidertrax he never got around to putting on, so I guess I should use them either way, right?
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04-23-2018, 02:26 PM
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Tall and skinny rock. Some new rims with offset would be nice for not hitting the frame on extreme turns. Got any suggestions for offset rims that are reasonably priced? Gonna take a pass on wheel spacers.
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04-24-2018, 08:13 PM
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Love tall skinny for my driving style (overlanding) and daily drivers
I'm looking at HANKOOK DYNAPRO MT RT03
Size: LT255/75R17/E
MSPN: HANK-2001560R
for $179 each as my next tire
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04-24-2018, 08:43 PM
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Some great lookin rigs in here.
Does this tire preference have a MPG advantage?
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04-24-2018, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by octanejunkie
Love tall skinny for my driving style (overlanding) and daily drivers
I'm looking at HANKOOK DYNAPRO MT RT03
Size: LT255/75R17/E
MSPN: HANK-2001560R
for $179 each as my next tire
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I have the same tire in 285/70/17 LR D. LD E is too hard for our trucks. Lifted vehicles definitely benefit from wheel spacers & a wider tire when it comes to on road handling. I hate that tippy feeling. Plus wider tires always look much cooler!
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04-24-2018, 09:03 PM
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Very happy with the 255/85 courser CT:
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I have the same tire in 285/70/17 LR D. LD E is too hard for our trucks. Lifted vehicles definitely benefit from wheel spacers & a wider tire when it comes to on road handling. I hate that tippy feeling. Plus wider tires always look much cooler!
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Aesthetics and personal preferences aside, I could be happy with 6 or 8 ply, but I kinda want pizza cutters that I can air down on the trails and back up on the road - best of both worlds for skinny and tall lol
The 265/70 R17s LR E Grabbers I'm running now are heavy beasts!
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04-25-2018, 11:15 AM
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have tried a couple of different tire sizes. currently running 255/85/16 km2s for this season and love them so far. I go offroading at least once a week and having a lighter and taller tire as opposed to 285s is certainly a plus.
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04-25-2018, 04:28 PM
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have tried a couple of different tire sizes. currently running 255/85/16 km2s for this season and love them so far. I go offroading at least once a week and having a lighter and taller tire as opposed to 285s is certainly a plus.
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How many ply?
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