12-04-2015, 01:43 PM
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Snake bite kit? Really? I thought there was no viable treatment other than getting the victim to a hospital ASAP. The old slash and suck method is way out of date.
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12-04-2015, 02:11 PM
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I don't have a first-aid kit that I carry or pack, though probably should.
I do have American Red Cross First-Aid, Lifeguarding, AED, Oxygen Administration and Lifeguard Instructor certs. and training, as well as a past Wilderness First Responder cert.
With proper training, you can adapt a lot of things, but if someone is severely hurt, you want to evacuate them ASAP.
Though I do carry a 1-way breathing barrier mask in each of my glove boxes.
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12-04-2015, 02:24 PM
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This thread covers this pretty well: Whats in your medical kit.
The best thing you can do is take a Wilderness First Aid Course, it is one weekend, invaluable and necessary if you ask me if you routinely head off road with groups of people. I took one here in the Bay Area from Kristina at Sweet Otter who is also an avid off-roader, it is a weekend course, she is great. Sweet Otter Training - Education - Certification - 831.251.3955 - Training
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12-04-2015, 02:33 PM
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"Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake." --W. C. Fields
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12-04-2015, 07:38 PM
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Ive carried a full jump kit (what the paramedics would bring to your broken ass) less O2, narcotics/IV fluids, and a cardiac monitor since I got EMT/IV certified.
I also have it at work everyday while we have climbers in the trees. Ive used it a few times stopping at accidents and such, and don't like going most places without it or a more compact version.
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12-04-2015, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by kwill
Snake bite kit? Really? I thought there was no viable treatment other than getting the victim to a hospital ASAP. The old slash and suck method is way out of date.
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LOL I know right, had it for probably 15 years, never used it, just something I keep in a small FAK. In all honesty I am not sure I would mess with a snake bite other than a light bandage and keeping the bite as far below the trunk as possible. I certainly wouldn't slice the affected area. That has always seemed pretty hollywood. It has been 25 years since I took my EMT, I know a lot has changed since then. I have a dozen friends that are active ski patrol/nurses/ect. Never occurred to ask about updated venom procedures.
I have thought it might be useful for more superficial things such as stings and bites.
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12-05-2015, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunslinger-13;2200574
-EAG Tactical IFAK:
[url=http://www.austereprovisions.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=APC-EAG-IFAK
EAG Tactical IFAK built by Austere Provisions Company[/url]
Supplemented with meds and extra bandages, gauze, glue, gloves- etc.
More important than what you have is how you've trained to use it.
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that IFAK looks a bit over priced.
I carry a little bit more than a basic kit assembled from stuff i had in the military and other kit. I work as a first responder
SAM Splits are alway nice to have
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12-05-2015, 01:17 PM
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regarding : medical kits
there is A LOT of CRAP out there .
and the well thought out good stuff can be high priced ,
BUT I have found a couple of sources that have put together professional
kits that are reasonably priced .
many kits give you way too much , of what you do not really need.
the following , have kits that are small and they sell to
POLICE departments and other gov agencies that are small enough for glove boxes or even personal carry , yet they maintain you until help arrives or you get to the help.
on this first one , CLICK on the medical kits for Law Enforcement
Medical Kits - TEMS/Law Enforcement - Rescue Essentials
these kits can handle many types of trauma in both the wilderness or urban environment
if you just want a medical kit for being out in outdoors / camping environment :
these guys have good quality
and sometimes , buying a couple of separate modules and putting the little specialized kits in one bag , can give you a better setup than one big box that tries to cover everything
Home - Adventure® Medical Kits - First Aid Kits and Survival Gear
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12-05-2015, 03:59 PM
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I carry two, one is just a large Ziploc freezer bag with really basic stuff tucked into one of the rear door pockets: gloves, band aids, some tape, 2x2 and 4x4 pads, ibuprofen, a couple cravats, gauze. Easy to grab without digging through other stuff in the cargo area, and the stuff you would most commonly need.
The other is a larger version but still fairly basic, all the above stuff plus CPR mask, trauma and burn pads, more gauze rolls, more tape, emergency blanket, EMT shears, I think that's about it. I keep it in a velcro bottom pouch that was getting thrown away at the ambulance, after I cleaned up the velcro it stuck perfectly to the back of the back seats.
I don't keep it in my first aid gear, it's with my tools, but duct tape is a seriously great piece of kit. You can use it as a tourniquet, hold down dressings, wrap it around a stick to split an extremity, etc.
I used to carry a monster of a first aid kit with oral airways, a bag valve mask, IV supplies, the works. In almost 20 years I never used anything but the extreme basics - band aids, 4x4s, tape, and gauze. Maybe an ice pack. I decided between the lack of use and the potential for getting in trouble (starting IVs when not on duty, outside my area or even outside my state), it was just easier to carry the most simple stuff.
I suppose if I was taking an unsupported trip into no man's land I'd temporarily up my gear and include IV stuff, epi, pain meds if I could legally and easily source them, tourniquet, quick clot. That sort of thing. The IV and meds would only be for me or someone in my party.
Not really first aid but - don't forget a fire extinguisher.
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12-05-2015, 05:53 PM
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I just carry a somewhat decent IFAK.
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I had a few IFAKs from the mil but have no idea where they went when I moved lol.
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12-07-2015, 04:59 PM
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I had a few IFAKs from the mil but have no idea where they went when I moved lol.
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Yeah, I just basically copied my mil IFAK.
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Originally Posted by el_kab0ng
There's a deep thread on this forum for an emergency preparedness bag/go bag/bug out bag which has all sorts of medical suggestions.
I don't do a lot of wheeling, but I've attended several TEMS/CPR courses, treated basic field stuff and run a couple of IVs on folks who were dehydrated (work related). In any event, don't necessarily discount all the other stuff you would have in a stock med kit. 99% of the time you won't need the gauze, quikclot or a quick reference book on trauma treatment in the field, but you will find yourself dipping into it for headache meds, burn gels, bug bite ointment, handiwipes or bandaids quite often.
The best suggestion I can give someone building a med kit is to do just that. Take a few stock ones and piece meal the kit for the situation you'll be finding yourself in.
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Sorry to bother, but was this the thread that you are refering too... Whats in your medical kit.
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This is what I keep in the car, in addition to a basic boo boo kit.
AR500 Armor® Tactical EPIK (IFAK)
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05-26-2017, 08:43 AM
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Gloves, band aids, gauze, and styptic powder and excedrin.
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