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So this thing just anchors into the plastic retainers of the handles? I'm not understanding where it's mounted? I mean it's only an AR so even in an impact you're looking at maybe a roughly 40lb weight trying to bust loose (I'm sure my math is off on the increased weight when acted on by inertia), so I suppose the factory plastic retainers could handle that?
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honestly its no heavier than having a bunch of clothes you picked up from the cleaners on one of the hooks. should hold it no problem
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06-09-2017, 10:04 PM
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honestly its no heavier than having a bunch of clothes you picked up from the cleaners on one of the hooks. should hold it no problem
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I would say it depends on the rifle you're storing up there. My REPR is a hefty gun, even with a 16" Spiral Fluted Barrel. That's before you count any accessories someone might add. Additionally clothing is typically lighter than your average AR15/AR10 and is in a different package so I wouldn't be as worried about a couple pounds of fluttering clothing vs. 7lbs of plastic and metal being slung at my head.
Also I'm not so much concerned about a panic stop as much as a collision. It's the same thing about cargo nets using very weak spots in the vehicle. Your dog might only be 20lbs but the amount of force at say 65mph in a collision imparted on your cargo net barely secured to the vehicle will send Fido's corpse into the back of your head killing you both.
That's why I am curious how and with what hardware it's connected to the vehicle with.
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06-10-2017, 09:17 AM
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The coat hooks in the fifth generation are mounted solidly to metal, using welded in nuts, and 6mm bolts. If you unbolt the coat hook on each side you can then replace it with this rack. The rack is so solid that you can grab it and rock the whole truck back and forth.
The mounting brackets that come with the rack are designed to be drilled into the metal supports for the headliner.
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06-13-2017, 04:34 PM
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I'm still pondering on making the jump into a 4Runner from my BMW. I noticed on the TRD's that there's a small space behind the 2nd row seats, in between the seats and the pull out tray. It looks like there's room underneath where you store small tools, etc. I'm assuming there's not enough space to fit an AR is there?
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06-13-2017, 09:23 PM
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The coat hooks in the fifth generation are mounted solidly to metal, using welded in nuts, and 6mm bolts. If you unbolt the coat hook on each side you can then replace it with this rack. The rack is so solid that you can grab it and rock the whole truck back and forth.
The mounting brackets that come with the rack are designed to be drilled into the metal supports for the headliner.
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Okay that's good to know, I wasn't sure if the coat racks were bolts or screws into plastic. If they're bolts then four 6mm bolts will be more than enough for the rack for a gun or two. I haven't had a 5th gen headliner out in a while so I couldn't remember how they had it set up in the rear.
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02-22-2019, 04:42 PM
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Not to bring up an old thread but it looks like the model of rack you originally posted is no longer available. Would the BSR-1 be a comparable model? Looks like the mounting is a little different but I love what you've got posted originally.
https://www.amazon.com/Big-Sky-BSR-1...bsr-1+gun+rack
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Not to bring up an old thread but it looks like the model of rack you originally posted is no longer available. Would the BSR-1 be a comparable model? Looks like the mounting is a little different but I love what you've got posted originally.
https://www.amazon.com/Big-Sky-BSR-1...bsr-1+gun+rack
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I got this rack, and even though the box said BSR-1, it is the BSR-2, 2 gun model. I routinely drive too fast on big bumps, and it is still back there, solid. I've noticed the shotgun I carry there gets dusty, so every once in a while I take it out and clean it.
Otherwise, I'm not normally an "every day carry" kind of guy. I understand that just owning a gun increases your chance of being shot to death. I got it because I kept running into tweakers in remote locations, then there was a rogue "militia" member in my area shooting people (Washington, CA). The gun sits up there, out of sight, for if I need it. Just another tool in the tool bag. Oh, and I keep a bokken (wooden katana) in the second position, for when my droogs and I don't want to escalate straight to ultra-violence.
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Reason: fergot about my bokken
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02-23-2019, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by bcfiremedic
Not to bring up an old thread but it looks like the model of rack you originally posted is no longer available. Would the BSR-1 be a comparable model? Looks like the mounting is a little different but I love what you've got posted originally.
https://www.amazon.com/Big-Sky-BSR-1...bsr-1+gun+rack
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The photo of that rack appears to mount differently than the rack I have. I assume it would still work but it appears that you would probably have to drill into the metal supports behind the headliner so it would not be as simple an installation. You may be better served to try to find an old stock version of what I have. Cabela's was selling them, and may well still have old stock on closeout. Or possibly consider calling Big Sky racks and asking them. If that model was discontinued it was discontinued quite recently because other people I know have bought those as recently as a few months ago.
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Several new on Ebay right now:
Big Sky Racks SBR-1G Telescoping One Gun Skybar Series - Truck Ceiling Gun Rack | eBay
Possibly still made but the link changed on Big Skys website...?
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02-23-2019, 09:21 PM
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I did a little more research for them after posting that and with the other model numbers. I've found the SBR version a few places just not any direct mentions on the Big Sky site. (Cabela's, eBay, 2-rifle version on Amazon, Wally-World) Which raises the question too, has anyone used the 2-rifle version just for the extra capacity? It's only a few dollars more on the initial cost.
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I did a little more research for them after posting that and with the other model numbers. I've found the SBR version a few places just not any direct mentions on the Big Sky site. (Cabela's, eBay, 2-rifle version on Amazon, Wally-World) Which raises the question too, has anyone used the 2-rifle version just for the extra capacity? It's only a few dollars more on the initial cost.
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Mine actually is the 2 gun model (it was the same price on sale or something when I bought it) and I just removed the 2nd gun's mounts. I see no reason why it wouldn't fit with a second gun in the same location, as long as the gun fits in the curvature of the ceiling.
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Originally Posted by Bodie the Dog
I got this rack, and even though the box said BSR-1, it is the BSR-2, 2 gun model. I routinely drive too fast on big bumps, and it is still back there, solid. I've noticed the shotgun I carry there gets dusty, so every once in a while I take it out and clean it.
Otherwise, I'm not normally an "every day carry" kind of guy. I understand that just owning a gun increases your chance of being shot to death. I got it because I kept running into tweakers in remote locations, then there was a rogue "militia" member in my area shooting people (Washington, CA). The gun sits up there, out of sight, for if I need it. Just another tool in the tool bag. Oh, and I keep a bokken (wooden katana) in the second position, for when my droogs and I don't want to escalate straight to ultra-violence.
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Respectfully, does 'just owning a fire extinguisher increase your chance of being burned to death' with that rational...? Or does just wearing a seat-belt increase your risk of being killed in an accident?
Does owning a hammer increase your risk of being bludgeoned to death with a hammer...?
You're correct that it's just a tool. A tool in the hands of good people is used for good things... correct things. The same, inanimate object, a tool, in the hands of a bad person can be used for bad things.
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I am NOT here to stir the pot, but I believe Bodie is simply stating you likelihood of injury increases with the responsibility of owning a firearm. -E5J- I feel is slightly missing the intended statement. It would be closer to: Owning a hammer increases the chances of you hitting your thumb with it. It's just a statistic that likes to get thrown around - and doesn't really have any actual bearing.
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I am NOT here to stir the pot, but I believe Bodie is simply stating you likelihood of injury increases with the responsibility of owning a firearm. -E5J- I feel is slightly missing the intended statement. It would be closer to: Owning a hammer increases the chances of you hitting your thumb with it. It's just a statistic that likes to get thrown around - and doesn't really have any actual bearing.
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Thank you, I believe you're onto something here... "Just owning" any tool, without proficiency and an absolute understanding of the responsibility encompassed in the law, use and ownership of the tool is simply reckless.
...didn't mean to climb onto the soapbox...
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OK, I can appreciate your view, thx
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Respectfully, does 'just owning a fire extinguisher increase your chance of being burned to death' with that rational...? Or does just wearing a seat-belt increase your risk of being killed in an accident?
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But really, the odds are increased just because it is there. This is especially relevant to suicides, because after people have a chance to cool down, they often don't go through with it. But if they do have a convenient tool (gun) right there, they can use it in the heat (or drunkeness) of the moment. It gets thrown around because it is relevant.
Thanks for the good discussion. Not stirring the pot, just talking.
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