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Old 01-08-2020, 03:08 PM #121
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Yes. I would say there is almost zero chance given your rig is over 20 years old. Not to mention while they include 2002 in the years included, it's pretty much specific to the 4th gen.
It applies to 3rd and 4th generation vehicles. Here is the investigation from NHTSA:

August 17, 2018 NHTSA ACTION NUMBER: DP18002 OPEN INVESTIGATION
Frame Corrosion

NHTSA Action Number: DP18002

Components STRUCTURE

Opened From: August 17, 2018–Present

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On August 13, 2018, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) received a letter dated August 7, 2018, petitioning the Agency to investigate frame corrosion in model year (MY) 2002 through 2006 Toyota 4Runner vehicles. The Petitioner alleges that while he was traveling on a two-lane highway in his 2005 4Runner "without warning, the steering/suspension system separated from the frame due to excessive frame corrosion," resulting in difficulty controlling the vehicle. The Petitioner initially reported the failure to NHTSA in a May 26, 2018 complaint (VOQ 11098055).

The petition alleges that the incident he experienced resulted from excessive and premature corrosion and cites as evidence: 1) other complaints of "premature and excessive frame corrosion" in 2002 through 2006 4Runner vehicles that he identified in NHTSA's on-line complaint database; and 2) a recent class-action settlement involving "1.5 million Tacoma, Tundra and Sequoia trucks also built on a frame," which he alleges did not include the 4Runner vehicles "simply because there were insufficient complaints known to the counsel representing the class at the time it was formed."

The petition scope includes third (MY 1996-2002) and fourth (MY 2003-2009) generation Toyota 4Runner vehicles. A preliminary analysis of available complaints and field reports by NHTSA's Office of Defects Investigation (ODI) has identified no crashes or injuries related to corroded frame or suspension components in these vehicles. ODI will evaluate the petition for a grant or deny decision.
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The genius who filed that petition probably doesn't even understand why the Tundra, Taco, and Sequoia were recalled.

Just because the scope includes two gens doesn't mean 96-01 and 07-09 are covered. Since it is covering 4th gens you might as well include 5th gens since the frames are damn near the same. While we are at it let's throw in the 2nd gens!!
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The genius who filed that petition probably doesn't even understand why the Tundra, Taco, and Sequoia were recalled.

Just because the scope includes two gens doesn't mean 96-01 and 07-09 are covered. Since it is covering 4th gens you might as well include 5th gens since the frames are damn near the same. While we are at it let's throw in the 2nd gens!!
Here is the actual petition(PDF). It even includes a fancy looking chart that means nothing.
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Here is the actual petition(PDF). It even includes a fancy looking chart that means nothing.
Oh great, filed by good ol Gary - the only guy in South Carolina with holes in his frame and no apparent saltwater exposure.
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Sigh.

I'll just say that I recently sold my non-neglected 3rd gen, which was operated for 22 years on salt encrusted roads in the winter, and salt flats during the summer.

I bought a 5th gen to replace the 3rd gen. My 3rd gen was rust-free when I sold it. Being rust-free wasn't an accident. It took some effort to keep it that way, as is spelled out in every owners manual about operating the vehicle in a highly corrosive environment.

Boy, I sure hope my 5th gen doesn't rust...
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Rusty Frames

There were 3 old semi-rusty frames stacked behind the Toyota dealership in Pompton Plains yesterday. Next to them was a stack of new frames.
Now I guess I know the reason why.

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Very curious,
My 03 has a ton of rust especially where the radiator support meets the frame.
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Love how the feeds hold Toyota to a high standard but turn blind eyes to domestic crap.
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Love how the feeds hold Toyota to a high standard but turn blind eyes to domestic crap.
Ford, GM and FCA say the exact opposite...
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Okay. Went to my dealer because of roaring sound coming from the back of my 2005 4th Gen. Runner. Dealer calls me back and says they would not do any more work on the truck because the the frame is rotting and would suggest getting rid of it next summer. They won't repair the rust because of liability issues. I looked at my frame and most of it looks good, but the left front actually has a hole completely rusted through. My question, has anyone ever heard of a 4th Gen Runner collapsing because of frame rust? I'm just worried about safety.
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Okay. Went to my dealer because of roaring sound coming from the back of my 2005 4th Gen. Runner. Dealer calls me back and says they would not do any more work on the truck because the the frame is rotting and would suggest getting rid of it next summer. They won't repair the rust because of liability issues. I looked at my frame and most of it looks good, but the left front actually has a hole completely rusted through. My question, has anyone ever heard of a 4th Gen Runner collapsing because of frame rust? I'm just worried about safety.
File a complaint with NHTSA and open a case with Toyota.

Even if it doesn't fall apart while driving, it could certainly cause major issues in an accident.
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