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Old 06-04-2019, 07:49 AM #1
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Shrockworks Sliders Dimpled Tread

Anyone running these sliders on there 5th Gen? Curious to know if they offer the same clearance as the factory running boards or do they sit higher? Kind of hard to tell from the pictures I seen online.


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They sit higher. Maybe an inch.
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Definitely higher than the stock, then again I have the preface 2012 SR5 with the thick side valance and below that the chrome trim running board. To me it felt like 4-5" inches higher compared to the stock low running board. Oh I also ordered and installed the rocker panels shrockworks also sells. I know other guys go with stock options from Toyota.
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No idea but they do lose you 2.5" of ground clearance on a stock TRD without any steps or whatever.

What this means is that you will be hitting the rock sliders chiefly because they are there not because they protect anything. We have completed 80 trails (dirt roads included) in the 4R and on all these I have had so far a grand total of 1 hit where I might have damaged the rocker panel had I not had sliders. All other hits were minor hits and minor dragging that only happened because the sliders were there.

And I only hit on that occasion because the presence of sliders made me too lazy to get out and look which I would have done without sliders.

In other words, are you sure you need sliders? If you need steps, then sure, better get step sliders as low hanging steps can be destroyed even on a moderate rated trail. But it takes a lot of rocks to threaten a 17" tall rocker and that's without any lift.

The other thing about the Shrock sliders for 5th gen is that they may be just strong enough but I would not call strength their forte. You absolutely must drill the hole required by the front leg of the pax side slider if you want to be able to take any serious hits. I actually had a second leg welded instead since it did not seem to me that the extra bolt underneath will suffice. I don't yet have an extra leg on the driver side because I can see that side a lot better, of course.

On the plus side, they have a fantastic finish, OEM-like quality, which is really why I got them. I did not want macho looking burly sliders. But the Shrock sure could have come with an extra leg in addition to the underframe wrapping.

In other words, it is TBD on whether going Shrock over my other finalist, the RCI step sliders, was a good call. They are good sliders, but not great. Someone at the dealership must have lifted the vehicle from the sliders during oil change because both have made minor contact with the rocker panels, definitely not from trail. Which means they are not strong enough even with the extra bolt underneath. I think the 3rd leg improved that: I lifted the entire right side on the front of the slider after adding the third leg without contact.
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The sliders your are looking at have been great. Wife and kid love them for a step. Not sure the claim about them not being strong. They use .134 wall material where most use .120. I have abused mine, jacked the truck from them and no issues.
Used the winch to pull me off this rock and the sliders just lost some coating.
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No idea but they do lose you 2.5" of ground clearance on a stock TRD without any steps or whatever.

What this means is that you will be hitting the rock sliders chiefly because they are there not because they protect anything. We have completed 80 trails (dirt roads included) in the 4R and on all these I have had so far a grand total of 1 hit where I might have damaged the rocker panel had I not had sliders. All other hits were minor hits and minor dragging that only happened because the sliders were there.

And I only hit on that occasion because the presence of sliders made me too lazy to get out and look which I would have done without sliders.

In other words, are you sure you need sliders? If you need steps, then sure, better get step sliders as low hanging steps can be destroyed even on a moderate rated trail. But it takes a lot of rocks to threaten a 17" tall rocker and that's without any lift.

The other thing about the Shrock sliders for 5th gen is that they may be just strong enough but I would not call strength their forte. You absolutely must drill the hole required by the front leg of the pax side slider if you want to be able to take any serious hits. I actually had a second leg welded instead since it did not seem to me that the extra bolt underneath will suffice. I don't yet have an extra leg on the driver side because I can see that side a lot better, of course.

On the plus side, they have a fantastic finish, OEM-like quality, which is really why I got them. I did not want macho looking burly sliders. But the Shrock sure could have come with an extra leg in addition to the underframe wrapping.

In other words, it is TBD on whether going Shrock over my other finalist, the RCI step sliders, was a good call. They are good sliders, but not great. Someone at the dealership must have lifted the vehicle from the sliders during oil change because both have made minor contact with the rocker panels, definitely not from trail. Which means they are not strong enough even with the extra bolt underneath. I think the 3rd leg improved that: I lifted the entire right side on the front of the slider after adding the third leg without contact.
Going to need to know your credentials to make a statement like that. I have built and destroyed a lot of metal and Schrockworks is one manufacture I do not worry about being "just strong enough". Usually it is funny how many things have to be over built because the average user does not understand the strength in formed metal. A simple piece of 16 gauge metal is flimsy until you put a bend into it; then you have a stout piece of metal that is what most of the 70s and 80s Toyota trucks were made out of.

So how is a piece of 1/4" steel less strong than a 11 gauge frame? Generally the sliders are stronger than the frames they are attached to; but that is just my experience.

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To save some people the googling - 5th gen frame is right at 1/8" inch thick. It is amazing the strength of a thin piece of steel once formed into a bent and welded shape.

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Going to need to know your credentials to make a statement like that. I have built and destroyed a lot of metal and Schrockworks is one manufacture I do not worry about being "just strong enough". Usually it is funny how many things have to be over built because the average user does not understand the strength in formed metal. A simple piece of 16 gauge metal is flimsy until you put a bend into it; then you have a stout piece of metal that is what most of the 70s and 80s Toyota trucks were made out of.

So how is a piece of 1/4" steel less strong than a 11 gauge frame? Generally the sliders are stronger than the frames they are attached to; but that is just my experience.

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Did you finish reading my post? In addition to what said in the last paragraph there about the front ends of the sliders, you cannot lift from the sliders behind the rear legs because they start touching the rocker panel before the rear wheel has lifted off. That is probably unimportant on trail unless backing down bigger rocks for some reason but that amount of deflection is still something I would rather not see.

Considering that the Xterra Shrock sliders have 3 legs, I don't understand why the 4R version has 2 legs.
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I think you can custom order from Mark@SW a three leg version, I seen a few at the shop built that way for other Toyota customers. From my understanding his two legs version works with KDSS models as well and he also includes another custom bracket.

If anything you can also weld a few points on the sliders for that extra insurance.

On another note when we installed my plated flat sliders on my SR5 it was definitely much heavier than the my buddy's SW angled sliders on his KDSS TRD off road. I don't know if that much of a narrow dimpled plate weighs that much but it might of been made with a thicker steel tube. I'll have to ask Mark.

I love the way the sliders make this humming tone when it makes contact, it definitely saved me from receiving body damage

Pros:
-Very nice powder coat finish thanks to Precision Powder Coat (they PC my C4 lopro and springs)
-functional for my 6 and 3 year olds, they are tall enough now to get in and out of the runner without assistance but use the door cup holders to maintain balance.
-perfect step to access roof accessories
-dimples prevent slipping when wet, good luck on using angled sliders as steps
-rattle can paint matches the current paint.

Cons:
-yeah they get in way of my knees when I'm buckling the kiddos to their car seats.
-work pants might get dirty coming off truck
-preface SR5 and limited models will need new rocker panels installed
- SW rocker panel kit is 1 inch short, there is an exposed area as if they just measured it wrong or just ran out of material. I plastic dipped sprayed that gap so it doesn't bother me as much
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