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Old 12-12-2019, 07:36 AM #166
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I actually gave this some thought this morning...

08 or newer Land Cruiser or LX570
older LC or LX if i could find one with or near 100K on the clocks...
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Plan B would be a nicely kept Tundra Crew Max.
Its SUV-ish enough in size, the 5.7 V-8 is the same as in the LC/LXs, 4WD, and if kept well enough can get me 1 Million Miles (que the Dr Evil music)


after owning several toyota products along with other makes...the Toyos just last longer, and work better...i dont need my vehicle to 'inspire' me...that's why i ride and race motorcycles, and travel to exotic lands and witnessed their sunrises and sunsets...
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Older Jeep Cherokee. Restomodded.
I'm not a "bells & whistles" type. My '17 SR5 has plenty of those distractions.

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Definitely a Lexus GX! 460/470. Probably will be the next vehicle if I had to move on from a 4runner.
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Land Cruiser for sure... I like the 70 series.
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I was temporarily in love with the Grand Cherokee SRT, the power and performance is just so satisfying, but I agree with your thoughts about long term ownership.
had a 2016 . It was cool but having a hotrod daily was kinda silly .
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Been thinking about this a lot lately. I'm thinking of getting rid of my '13 TE, I just can't deal with this POS 4.0.

I don't do any serious wheeling, it's more to use a camping vehicle and haul my dogs and mountain bikes. Would do "overlanding" (lol) trips, that mostly include long stretches of highway

First gen Sequoia, 05-07. What I really wanted in the first place, just ran out of patience looking for a good one(Thanks New England!) and got the 4Runner early this year. This time around I'll head down south to find a good one. I love the way the gen1 looks, esp modded. Interiors are nice with a quality feel, and ROOMY. I'm kinda "meh" on the 4.7L, but if I can find one that's had recent timing belt service, I can deal with it.

Also would consider a GX470, or a 100 Series if I could find a good one that wasn't stupid money.

GMT800 Tahoe/Yukon. Good size, cheap, reliable, easy to find. Plus, I LOVE the LS engines, I'd rather have an LS over anything Toyota makes.

GMT800 Suburban/Yukon XL. Same as above, just bigger. These things seem huge, but wheelbase in only 2.4" longer than a DCSB Taco, and shorter than that DCLB.

Z71 versions of both tend to be loaded, and came standard with 3.73 gearing and the G80 rear locking diff. Not the best, but better than open. 285/75/17's shouldn't be too much work, and they also make 4-6" bracket lifts for them as well.

Also thinking of the 2500 version of the Burb/XL. Comes with the 6.0 or 8.1L, and the 4L80 trans and 14bolt rear. Bulletproof. Also, 38 gallon fuel tank. Even the 8.1L would have more range than any of the Yotas.


If I was looking for something just to take offroad, XJ for sure.

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Oh, I don't know. 22 years old with 192,000 trouble-free miles and still going strong. Bought it new, and couldn't part with it for the pittance the dealer offered when we bought the 4Runner in 2016. Still use it regularly. The new GC's are a totally different design, so probably not comparable. But, I remember hearing the same stuff about Jeeps when we bought it back then.

Picture from 9/24/19. Still sporting its original paint.

ZJ's are awesome! I'll take the Jeep 4.0 over that turd of a Toyota 4.0 anyday, and with the SFA those ZJ's are great offroad and easy to mod.

I had a 97, it was 15 years old when I got rid of it. It ran GREAT at that time, the main problem was that living in New England, corrosion was taking over. In retrospect I should have kept it, but at that point I had owned it 12 years and was ready to move on.

I don't know what makes 4Runner owners feel like they always need to slam Jeeps.
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If Audi ever brings the diesel back to the Q7 I'd jump on that but it's doubtful.
I want torque.

So if not that, probably the next GX if there's no better engine in the 4R than the turd we have now.
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Sequoia. I over pack and need the space It's also nice to tow long distances and not feel the load. Checks all the boxes except fuel mileage.
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If Audi ever brings the diesel back to the Q7 I'd jump on that but it's doubtful.
I want torque.

So if not that, probably the next GX if there's no better engine in the 4R than the turd we have now.
I hear you, I'd like to experience the Q7 that Audi sold in Europe with the 12 cylinder TDI that had 500HP and 738 lb-ft of TQ.
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Easy: I'd get a Diesel Hilux 4x4.
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I hear you, I'd like to experience the Q7 that Audi sold in Europe with the 12 cylinder TDI that had 500HP and 738 lb-ft of TQ.


My friends had the V10 Touareg. I honestly liked my 6 cylinder TDI better. The V10 was so much heavier that the 3.0 was better all around even if not as fast off the line.
No idea how that v12 would be with a slightly more modern chassis though.


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The fact that the 4runner hasnt made the change to all of these so called wants that all the other manufacturers are adding shows that Toyota actually understands what it means to have an off-road ready SUV. It's the last one still built on a frame vs. a nobody design like all other manufacturers have done, while yes you can put the others in 4wd or just the awd that can't be turned off, the fact is that the 4runner is a one of a kind suv. It has been bucking the trend to cater to what car buyers think they want and sticking with what the necessities of getting far off the beaten path are. That being said the 1st gen Touraeg would be a decent choice. But if your set on having something new just for all the "things" that make it better(according to the manufacturer and social media who don't really know what is needed for getting really out there) I've heard good things from my neighbor about his vw atlas.
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I had a 2010 Diesel Touareg w/ air suspension and diff lock. It was terrific.
It couldn't get everywhere the 4Runner can, but I don't have the testicles (or time) to take my 4R much further than I took the Touareg anyway.

As for "It has been bucking the trend to cater to what car buyers think they want and sticking with what the necessities of getting far off the beaten path are."

Putting a better engine in it isn't catering IMO and it certainly would only affect it's offroad worthiness positively.
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