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Originally Posted by jhguth
based on vehicles in NC, if you buy a tahoe i'm pretty sure you're required to stretch tires on really ugly wheels then squat the back, throw a light bar on it, and you're apparently required to have a sticker on your window with your instagram
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we've got them down here..I laugh every time I see one of those trucks..they look so stupid..
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12-11-2019, 12:18 PM
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I looked at the Yukon/ Tahoe too before buying the 4runner. I love the Tahoe/ Yukon- caveats below.
2011 SR5 4x4 with 123,000 trouble free miles.
I also looked into the (used) Acura TL, MDX, Honda Pilot, crew cab trucks of all varieties, Highlander, Explorer... lots of models but kept coming back to the 4runner.
Chevy Tahoe = GMC Yukon.
Suburban = Yukon XL.
Escalade = Yukon Denali but a little less bling.
My cousin has a Tahoe, same miles as me about 120K, he's most recently into about $6,000 in repairs including a transmission that's still not shifting right, his dash is lit up like a Christmas tree, and his front end is all janky, interior finishes looking pretty jacked up. Having said that, I love the look and power, and they get better or the same MPG as the 4runner.
I would love to pick up a sweet deal on a 10 year old used bmw or mercedes, but I'm not crazy.
10 year old 4runner? No problem!
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12-11-2019, 01:18 PM
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With that said!
Here's a link to the new 2021.
2021 Chevrolet Suburban And 2021 Chevrolet Tahoe: Here They Are
I personally like it. At least the looks of it. I even liked the last generation Tahoe. Everyone I know who owns one, has issues as they get up in miles. My coworker has a 15 with 110k miles. At 101k miles on a road trip from Denver to Phoenix, the transmission went. $4,500k to fix. And he was stranded in AZ. Considering that car mostly lived its life highway cruising, that's disappointing. He also has a 10+ year old RWD Sequoia. No issues to date there.
Anyway, 4Runners are known for reliability. Tahoes are not.
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12-11-2019, 01:23 PM
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The first thing I noticed was the terrible alignment. WTF? GM can't figure out how to design a front suspension that retains it's alignment even close when the height goes up. LOL. Typical GM engineering. Never thinking even one step ahead. I do like the specs at least on the 3.0 Duramax. That's literally the only thing that would make me consider a Tahoe. The engine appears to be a gem, at least on paper. Let's hope it's a hell of a lot better than the 2.8 VM Motori they call a "duramax" in the Canyon/Colorado. That is a notoriously shitty diesel - and has been since it was sold in Jeeps twenty years ago. If the 3.0 is a solid engine - I can see a pretty good case for owning one for long distance family travel and camper towing despite the interior and build quality that we all know it'll have problems with.
An LX570 keeps its alignment pretty close at full height.
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12-11-2019, 01:50 PM
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With that said!
Here's a link to the new 2021.
2021 Chevrolet Suburban And 2021 Chevrolet Tahoe: Here They Are
I personally like it. At least the looks of it. I even liked the last generation Tahoe. Everyone I know who owns one, has issues as they get up in miles. My coworker has a 15 with 110k miles. At 101k miles on a road trip from Denver to Phoenix, the transmission went. $4,500k to fix. And he was stranded in AZ. Considering that car mostly lived its life highway cruising, that's disappointing. He also has a 10+ year old RWD Sequoia. No issues to date there.
Anyway, 4Runners are known for reliability. Tahoes are not.
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12-11-2019, 01:50 PM
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I came from a sierra so I can’t go back now after my first toyota, lol. This looks like the silverado which I happen to think is the ugliest full size pick up on the road today, deal breaker for me.
I was looking at Yukon/Tahoes before I got my 4runner and they are also stupid expensive if you want some options on it, even the basic ones seemed overpriced and weren't very nice at all.
My dream suv is still the 200 series land cruiser, but they arent sold here. The sequoia looks like it was thrown to the bottom of a lake to bloat.
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12-11-2019, 02:36 PM
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The first thing I noticed was the terrible alignment. WTF? GM can't figure out how to design a front suspension that retains it's alignment even close when the height goes up. LOL. Typical GM engineering. Never thinking even one step ahead. I do like the specs at least on the 3.0 Duramax. That's literally the only thing that would make me consider a Tahoe. The engine appears to be a gem, at least on paper. Let's hope it's a hell of a lot better than the 2.8 VM Motori they call a "duramax" in the Canyon/Colorado. That is a notoriously shitty diesel - and has been since it was sold in Jeeps twenty years ago. If the 3.0 is a solid engine - I can see a pretty good case for owning one for long distance family travel and camper towing despite the interior and build quality that we all know it'll have problems with.
An LX570 keeps its alignment pretty close at full height.
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Yeah, I looked at the pics on Jalopnik, and you're right - you can see the +camber and possibly toe-in on every pic. Wonder if the rear will experience problems with the lift since it'll be independent rear suspension? Hard to tell from the photos if anything's off in the rear.
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12-11-2019, 02:40 PM
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Mmmm I don't like that new Tahoe/ Yukon design at ALL. The new GM full size truck either.
GM has lost it regarding design, the new corvette looks like a camaro that's had a bunch of plastic cladding thrown on it then been hit from the front with a giant fly swatter.
Gosh I hope Toyota knocks it out of the park with the new 4runner, whenever it comes out.
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12-11-2019, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by John in NC
Mmmm I don't like that new Tahoe/ Yukon design at ALL. The new GM full size truck either.
GM has lost it regarding design, the new corvette looks like a camaro that's had a bunch of plastic cladding thrown on it then been hit from the front with a giant fly swatter.
Gosh I hope Toyota knocks it out of the park with the new 4runner, whenever it comes out.
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I do, think the taillights look Caramo-ish, but overall I love the new Corvette and will be selling my current Z06 and grabbing a new C8 Z06 once its out.
But let's not forget the BMW abomination that Toyota calls the "Supra". What a joke!
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12-11-2019, 08:21 PM
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I would look at a very basic Tahoe, not an overpriced and overloaded ''Pimp'' model. The Tahoe with a 5.3 in a base model would be a nice vehicle and mpg similar if not better than the 4Runner. I buy to keep a vehicle at least 10 years, so I don't worry about resale. I have had 3 Express Vans with the same basic powertrain as the Tahoe and no problems in the 150K lifespan. Both my 4Runners have been solid as well and I love Toyota!
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12-11-2019, 09:41 PM
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I just came from a 2018 Yukon Denali with the 6.2L and loved it. Do you plan on off-roading? Have you owned GM vehicles before? I bought my Denali new and the value plummeted on it! MSRP was 79K, I paid 64K and sold it 16-18 months later for 50K.
Thats a terrible investment and the main reason I came back to 4runner. I saw a TRD Pro 4Runner in Nashville sale for about 4-5K less than a brand new one and it was 3 model years old
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Same story here. Came from a '16 Tahoe, which I bought used with ~15k miles on it for $45k. MSRP was somewhere in the 60's. I thought I had gotten a pretty good deal until I sold it two years later for $28k.
Having said that, it was a great vehicle in a lot of ways. Big, fast, quiet, safe. There's nothing wrong with those trucks except the landslide in trade in value. They're big. I'd measure the garage first, and make sure the wife is comfortable driving and parking it (mine wasn't).
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12-11-2019, 11:16 PM
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I’ve had numerous GM vehicles over the decades. Some were good, but all three lemons I ever owned were GM’s.
I’d steer clear of any new generation first year of any GM model. My observations is that in their rush to bring a new gen vehicle to market, they release them half baked and allow the public to do the remainder of their R&D. After a couple years, the bugs are usually worked out, in time for the next gen to be released.
My experience has proven that build quality of GM vehicles are not to par. The automotive press always complains about interior materials. My last Cadillac shed parts like a dog shaking water off - starting at 3,000 miles.
That Cadillac, a 1996, a huge lemon, was the last straw for me on buying GM. At the same time I bought that Cadillac, I also bought a Chevrolet S-10 4x4 pickup. It was a good truck, though did have a number of minor issues showing its substandard build quality. But in 2002 I traded it in on my new Tacoma and I’ve never bought a GM product again. And unless they change their ways, I don’t ever plan to.
On the topic of exterior styling of the new Silverado, to me it looks like some sort of menacing Japanese comic book insect. But then again, my buddy says my ‘18 SR5 looks like “an angry fish sucking a lemon.”
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12-11-2019, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jhguth
based on vehicles in NC, if you buy a tahoe i'm pretty sure you're required to stretch tires on really ugly wheels then squat the back, throw a light bar on it, and you're apparently required to have a sticker on your window with your instagram
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12-12-2019, 12:41 AM
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Is the steering wheel still offset from driver center? And what the hell is that button/slider shifter?
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12-12-2019, 01:22 AM
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Yep, don't buy a first year re-design, especially if it is a Chevy. Not only that, the MSRP is high because there are always suckers that have to be the first ones to get it and will pay it. After 3 or 4 years it'll be 10 to 15k off sticker without even negotiating. Even then, way overpriced given the depreciation and the poor reliability. 4x4 capability is pretty good though.
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