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I see Rago Fab offers a rear antenna mount. This could easily be changed to accept rear facing ditch lights.



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Rago Rear Ditch Light Bracket from Rago Antenna mount?
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I have had some ditch lights on my 2003 4Runner (4th gen), so maybe I can help you out here. All of the following is my own personal thoughts and experiences after using ditch lights for about a year, so take everything I say with a grain of salt.

If I were to do ditch lights again, I probably wouldn't do them at all. Ditch light brackets are meant to hold the LED pods/cubes, and I think they look a bit silly with larger lights on them. Because of that, I found that I wasn't getting the light I was looking for when I put them on there. I always wished the output was more.

I have gone through a couple of lights on my own rig, including spots, hyperspots, and floods. If I were deadset on doing ditch lights, I would 100% do floods and angle them to the sides.

I tried off-brand hyperspots as well as Rigid Hyperspots, and again, it just wasn't really the output I was looking for. It threw great light down range, but in very small, focused circles. That's when I figured I'd try spots. I liked the "beam pattern" better, but again, you're kind of limited just by the 4 LED nature of a pod. Then I did floods angled outwards and that was by far my favorite. I found straight forward the floods reflected off my hood a decent amount, so I
angled them sideways, and they gave me great peripheral lighting without putting lights on a roof rack or anything. Nice for finding a decent place to camp at night.
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Now on to your questions. If you are deadset on pods, I would do some floods angled to the side. Don't think they make many variations of wattage, so not sure it matters too much. Zero wind noise on mine. Wouldn't change anything on my install (although I just made sure to take my time on the install). For floods on ditch brackets, I don't think it is worth investing in high-end brands. Don't go pure shit, but something middle of the road should be more than enough for you. And finally, I think the standard 2x2 pod is the best looking, although you could always go with a bigger pod or circular light if you want.
Outstanding input, I appreciate it.

I'll take this into consideration for my current ride. I'm pretty keen on managing glare, so I think this is going to be an exercise in finding a careful balance between light throw, light spill, and output power.

I hadn't thought about the limitations of smaller pods, so thank you for that insight.

Quick follow-up, though: I'm thinking through how I might mount a light on a ditch light bracket (although your post is making me take pause on that path), and it was always my intent to turn them maybe 35 to 45 degrees outboard. That is, after all, their purpose: to provide me peripheral lighting. So my questions is: when you angled your floods sideways, are we talking the same as what I have in mind? As in turned outward far enough to get most of the glare off of the hood? Or were you closer to 90 degrees than what I'm thinking?

You've certainly got me thinking twice about smaller pods on ditch light brackets, though. Maybe I'll find a place on my tube bumper that works better.
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Just ordered a set of Bajadesigns SAE clear fog lights to replace the stock ones up front and got a set of Baja S1 cornering lights that i will be mounting under the rear spoiler like patkelly suggested. I can mount them wide enough so they wont block my view.

I just wish there was a way to do a small simple swivel mount. I was thinking Neodymium Magnet may work but i would worry they may fall off. Ether way ill post back once its installed.

Looks like a 4-6 week wait to get them though.
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how do I find the thread where I can ask some noob questions can someone message me or let me know please thank you
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One thing I used for the boat ramp on the cheap this past year is a simple tow hitch attachment Amazon.com: Nilight 2 PCS 4 Inch 60W Led Pods with 2.5 Inch Tow Hitch Mounting Brackets LED Backup Reverse Lights Rear Search Lighting Led Light Bar for Pickup ATV SUV Truck Trailer Boat: Automotive rock crawling, could be some issues with clearance, but 35 bucks and a switch and an hour of your time may be worth trying. I wired into a 5pt trailer harness using the Reverse wire as the feed.
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I have had some ditch lights on my 2003 4Runner (4th gen), so maybe I can help you out here. All of the following is my own personal thoughts and experiences after using ditch lights for about a year, so take everything I say with a grain of salt.

If I were to do ditch lights again, I probably wouldn't do them at all. Ditch light brackets are meant to hold the LED pods/cubes, and I think they look a bit silly with larger lights on them. Because of that, I found that I wasn't getting the light I was looking for when I put them on there. I always wished the output was more.

I have gone through a couple of lights on my own rig, including spots, hyperspots, and floods. If I were deadset on doing ditch lights, I would 100% do floods and angle them to the sides.

I tried off-brand hyperspots as well as Rigid Hyperspots, and again, it just wasn't really the output I was looking for. It threw great light down range, but in very small, focused circles. That's when I figured I'd try spots. I liked the "beam pattern" better, but again, you're kind of limited just by the 4 LED nature of a pod. Then I did floods angled outwards and that was by far my favorite. I found straight forward the floods reflected off my hood a decent amount, so I angled them sideways, and they gave me great peripheral lighting without putting lights on a roof rack or anything. Nice for finding a decent place to camp at night.

https://www.tcswebmail.info/ https://www.dadeschools.one/ https://www.upsers.fyi/


Now on to your questions. If you are deadset on pods, I would do some floods angled to the side. Don't think they make many variations of wattage, so not sure it matters too much. Zero wind noise on mine. Wouldn't change anything on my install (although I just made sure to take my time on the install). For floods on ditch brackets, I don't think it is worth investing in high-end brands. Don't go pure shit, but something middle of the road should be more than enough for you. And finally, I think the standard 2x2 pod is the best looking, although you could always go with a bigger pod or circular light if you want.
I have had some ditch lights on my 2003 4Runner (4th gen), so maybe I can help you out here. All of the following is my own personal thoughts and experiences after using ditch lights for about a year, so take everything I say with a grain of salt.

If I were to do ditch lights again, I probably wouldn't do them at all. Ditch light brackets are meant to hold the LED pods/cubes, and I think they look a bit silly with larger lights on them. Because of that, I found that I wasn't getting the light I was looking for when I put them on there. I always wished the output was more.

I have gone through a couple of lights on my own rig, including spots, hyperspots, and floods. If I were deadset on doing ditch lights, I would 100% do floods and angle them to the sides.

I tried off-brand hyperspots as well as Rigid Hyperspots, and again, it just wasn't really the output I was looking for. It threw great light down range, but in very small, focused circles. That's when I figured I'd try spots. I liked the "beam pattern" better, but again, you're kind of limited just by the 4 LED nature of a pod. Then I did floods angled outwards and that was by far my favorite. I found straight forward the floods reflected off my hood a decent amount, so I angled them sideways, and they gave me great peripheral lighting without putting lights on a roof rack or anything. Nice for finding a decent place to camp at night.

Now on to your questions. If you are deadset on pods, I would do some floods angled to the side. Don't think they make many variations of wattage, so not sure it matters too much. Zero wind noise on mine. Wouldn't change anything on my install (although I just made sure to take my time on the install). For floods on ditch brackets, I don't think it is worth investing in high-end brands. Don't go pure shit, but something middle of the road should be more than enough for you. And finally, I think the standard 2x2 pod is the best looking, although you could always go with a bigger pod or circular light if you want.

Personally, on my next rig I am going to ditch (heh) the ditch lights and just go with other lighting like a roof and/or bumper light bar.
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I have had some ditch lights on my 2003 4Runner (4th gen), so maybe I can help you out here. All of the following is my own personal thoughts and experiences after using ditch lights for about a year, so take everything I say with a grain of salt.

If I were to do ditch lights again, I probably wouldn't do them at all. Ditch light brackets are meant to hold the LED pods/cubes, and I think they look a bit silly with larger lights on them. Because of that, I found that I wasn't getting the light I was looking for when I put them on there. I always wished the output was more.

I have gone through a couple of lights on my own rig, including spots, hyperspots, and floods. If I were deadset on doing ditch lights, I would 100% do floods and angle them to the sides.

I tried off-brand hyperspots as well as Rigid Hyperspots, and again, it just wasn't really the output I was looking for. It threw great light down range, but in very small, focused circles. That's when I figured I'd try spots. I liked the "beam pattern" better, but again, you're kind of limited just by the 4 LED nature of a pod. Then I did floods angled outwards and that was by far my favorite. I found straight forward the floods reflected off my hood a decent amount, so I angled them sideways, and they gave me great peripheral lighting without putting lights on a roof rack or anything. Nice for finding a decent place to camp at night.
https://www.tcswebmail.info/https://www.dadeschools.one/https://www.upsers.fyi/

Now on to your questions. If you are deadset on pods, I would do some floods angled to the side. Don't think they make many variations of wattage, so not sure it matters too much. Zero wind noise on mine. Wouldn't change anything on my install (although I just made sure to take my time on the install). For floods on ditch brackets, I don't think it is worth investing in high-end brands. Don't go pure shit, but something middle of the road should be more than enough for you. And finally, I think the standard 2x2 pod is the best looking, although you could always go with a bigger pod or circular light if you want.
Outstanding input, I appreciate it.

I'll take this into consideration for my current ride. I'm pretty keen on managing glare, so I think this is going to be an exercise in finding a careful balance between light throw, light spill, and output power.

I hadn't thought about the limitations of smaller pods, so thank you for that insight.

Quick follow-up, though: I'm thinking through how I might mount a light on a ditch light bracket (although your post is making me take pause on that path), and it was always my intent to turn them maybe 35 to 45 degrees outboard. That is, after all, their purpose: to provide me peripheral lighting. So my questions is: when you angled your floods sideways, are we talking the same as what I have in mind? As in turned outward far enough to get most of the glare off of the hood? Or were you closer to 90 degrees than what I'm thinking?

You've certainly got me thinking twice about smaller pods on ditch light brackets, though. Maybe I'll find a place on my tube bumper that works better.
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A little update, I went with Diode Dynamics 720 lumen LED backup lights.
Backup LEDs for 2001-2021 Toyota 4Runner (pair)

Works good for closing farm gates as long as you have a passenger. I don't trust parking / emergency brakes enough to leave the vehicle in reverse and hop out.

They are crazy bright. Negative is they put a lot of glare into the back up camera.

Note: you need to straighten and then bend the prongs on each LED bulb into a "U" shape to get them to stick in the sockets on the 4Runner. If you don't do that, they will fall out of the socket into the housing.

Forcing you to to remove the housing and fish the bulb out with a long set of tweezers...

Fortunately the tail light housing comes off pretty easily.
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Finally all installed and tested.

I got a pair of Baja cornering lights that are 2500 lumens for setting up camp and backing down narrow roads if needed. I mounted them to a magnetic mount so they can be placed in a few locations or rotated.





The magnetic mount can hold 55+lbs


And with the quick release i can move the lights around or disconnect and move them to the front of my 4R and use them as ditch lights.






I am prewired for ditch lights up front with a switch so i can simply unplug the lights and remove them with the magnets from the rear then mount them magnetically to the hood up front as ditch lights. But i can also just rotate these forward and use them as ditch lights from the back since they are super bright. So incredibly versatile, i am glad i went with the magnetic mount and the super small bright Baja's.

Baja SAE's look nice too:


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