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Old 01-07-2020, 07:44 PM #16
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i think anyone who snow wheels by themselves has this happen to them once as a wake up call.

be more prepared next time: shovels, better tires, bring another rig, etc.

my buddy and i did this once last winter with his 3rd gen before i had mine, it doesn't take much snow to get you stuck pretty good. we were out there for about 8 hours and we ended up getting a UTV stuck that originally tried to help us and a passing by jeep ended up having to pull both of us out.


I agree with you about being prepared. My plan was just to stick to the main road which wasnít bad but took another little dirt road. Wasnít intending to do a real off road trip. I was only 50 yards off the main road. I was semi prepared with snow boots, gloves and heavy jacket. Just was deeper then I expected. Lesson learned!


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I have traction boards with me when there is a chance I will be in snow. Shovel would be good to but I haven't gotten one yet to put on my rack. But traction boards or just about anything else will only get you so far if you use your momentum to get far in before you come to a halt. Mud terrains would probably be the best tires in deep snow, snow tires would be the best in shallow icy snow.

I was able to rock this back and forth to get out. Crawl control, ATRAC, and locking the rear diff didn't help me until I started rocking it back and forth and then gun it once I got a little momentum.


That looks deep! Deeper then what I was in for sure. The off road goodies didnít help me out either


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You spun the tires so much that the heat from that created the ice. That was the mistake. I have successfully removed myself from being stuck with the factory tires using crawl. Crawl also can be used in reverse. Keep cloth towels with you and use them with crawl or carry a small military folding shovel with you. Getting out and testing the conditions before proceeding is helpful too


Good advise. Thanks!


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I agree with you about being prepared. My plan was just to stick to the main road which wasnít bad but took another little dirt road. Wasnít intending to do a real off road trip. I was only 50 yards off the main road. I was semi prepared with snow boots, gloves and heavy jacket. Just was deeper then I expected. Lesson learned!


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that is exactly what happened when my buddy and i got stuck. almost down to the T. we thought we were in 2-4 inches of snow tops and it was more than a afoot.
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Advice from someone who has spent most his life in the land of snow - theres not much you could have done to not get stuck (other than avoid it). When the snow is that high and hits your undercarriage - youre stuck. the snow under your tires is gonna pack down too so you'll sink and hit the snow earlier than you think

Once your stuck its difficult. Getting towed, winch are the best options. otherwise, gentle rocking back and forth, digging out the undercarriage and trying to use something to get traction - all weather mats, cat litter, sand etc

As mentioned, don't gun it. you'll sink deeper and deeper and get more stuck.

If its not that high, its fun to drive in though! you lose traction easily
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Crawl also can be used in reverse.
This is something I didn't know until someone pointed it out, and I have found it is extremely useful for backing down or out of sketchy situations. Although, taking your foot off the brake when backing down a steep / loose / slippery slope really gets the adrenaline going!
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There is one thing you didn't try. Let your tires down to 15 lbs (+-). IMHO: Probably would have come out.
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getting stuck

Only vaguely related but 40+ years ago I went ice climbing with a friend.

When we came down the car started fine but simply wouldn't move. No traction. Turned out we'd parked it on a hump of ice and there was almost no weight on the rear tires.

Fortunately we had ice tools with us and a few minutes hacking away chopped out enough ice that we could get going.

The line between moving and stuck is very thin.
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Advice from someone who has spent most his life in the land of snow - theres not much you could have done to not get stuck (other than avoid it). When the snow is that high and hits your undercarriage - youre stuck. the snow under your tires is gonna pack down too so you'll sink and hit the snow earlier than you think

Once your stuck its difficult. Getting towed, winch are the best options. otherwise, gentle rocking back and forth, digging out the undercarriage and trying to use something to get traction - all weather mats, cat litter, sand etc

As mentioned, don't gun it. you'll sink deeper and deeper and get more stuck.

If its not that high, its fun to drive in though! you lose traction easily
Ditto.

1. The 4R is not a tank. It is not a snow cat.
2. The 4R does not have high ground clearance and will bog down to its undercarriage in deep snow. You will get stuck.
3. The photos look like you were in deep snow. Donít drive off-road in deep snow.
4. All-weather tires are slippery in snow. Read tire reviews and get more aggressive tires.
5. Carry a shovel. Check out camping/mountaineering vendors for a high quality aluminum collapsible flat front show shovel. The handle is removable and will fit in your trunk. No need to carry it on your roof.
6. Carry scraps of carpet or old floor mats. They can give you extra traction if youíre stuck in snow (as well as sand).
7. Know your limitations and your truckís limitations. Know how it behaves and handles in snow/ice conditions. Practice in a safe unplowed parking lot after a snow storm. Do doughnuts, 360s, uncontrolled slides. Get stuck and dig it out. Itís a blast!
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There is one thing you didn't try. Let your tires down to 15 lbs (+-). IMHO: Probably would have come out.


I lowered them down to 25 PSI and that did help. Finally got out after that


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Ditto.



1. The 4R is not a tank. It is not a snow cat.

2. The 4R does not have high ground clearance and will bog down to its undercarriage in deep snow. You will get stuck.

3. The photos look like you were in deep snow. Donít drive off-road in deep snow.

4. All-weather tires are slippery in snow. Read tire reviews and get more aggressive tires.

5. Carry a shovel. Check out camping/mountaineering vendors for a high quality aluminum collapsible flat front show shovel. The handle is removable and will fit in your trunk. No need to carry it on your roof.

6. Carry scraps of carpet or old floor mats. They can give you extra traction if youíre stuck in snow (as well as sand).

7. Know your limitations and your truckís limitations. Know how it behaves and handles in snow/ice conditions. Practice in a safe unplowed parking lot after a snow storm. Do doughnuts, 360s, uncontrolled slides. Get stuck and dig it out. Itís a blast!


Good advise. I had driven it in snow one time before and played around with it then like you suggested to see how it would drive. 4x4, 2WD, transaction control on and off etc. Just to get used to it. Just got myself into deeper snow then I expected. When I tried to turn around thatís when I got stuck. Iíll be more careful in the future. I found the 4R limitations (in stock form) in my first 2 weeks of ownership.


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Deep snow with the right tires is not too big an issue

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Deep snow with the right tires is not too big an issue


I agree on the right tires making a difference, My wifes front wheel drive car with snow tires gets around pretty good with the amount of snow indicated in your pic.
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First of all, you should not be driving on a remote highway if the forecast is for a blizzard. Postpone the trip until conditions improve! If there is only a chance of a blizzard and you have a strong reason for traveling, you should be prepared with blankets, warm clothing, food, and water in your car. You should also bring a shovel. If the snow starts to get heavy, you should avoid driving on minor roads that may not be priorities for snow plowing. Stick to numbered highways.

If you find yourself in blizzard conditions, you should periodically clear snow away from your car door so that you can open it and you are not trapped inside your car. Otherwise, you should wait in your car, wrapped in blankets, until help arrives. It would be wise to keep your water wrapped inside your blanket with you so that it doesnít freeze. You should not walk farther than you can see in blizzard conditions. If you wait in your car, snow plowing crews will eventually find and rescue you.
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Well first off you need to re-evaluate your decision to be driving in a blizzard. But hopefully, you are smart enough to have some essentials with you a good thick blanket warm clothes and a way to charge your phone.

I was always taught to take a bag of kitty litter with me that way I can gain traction in snow and icy surfaces in case I do get stopped for any reason.

When driving in snow consistently is key do not make sudden movements do not slam on the brakes or gas and do everything you can to keep forward momentum. If you stop, thatís when you get stuck and itís hard to get going again. Have a way to clear any snow that is blocking your path. A little kitty litter on the ground in front of your drive wheel and drive on.
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