It’s almost like some people want the economy to fail and for millions to be tossed out of their livelihoods, and for them to take years to recover lost income.

Interesting letter from a subject matter expert.

he's writing in part about the mistaken practice of adding people who die of other causes, but have the coronavirus, to the tally of coronavirus deaths.

This is what they're doing in Italy, and supposedly doing in NY and many other areas WW.

COVID-19, Urgent Reassessment, Diagnosis and Basic Principles of Infectiology: Open Letter from Professor Sucharit Bhakdi to German Chancellor Dr. Angela Merkel - Global ResearchGlobal Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

Thanks Charlie

Amen

keeping my gas tanks full.

Yeah it sure does! Remember when liberal Bill Mahr hoped the economy would crash to get the POTUS out of the office?? I put on my tin foil hat and believe that China & who knows here is behind this to crash our economy. China or the Communist Party Lies out right & want to be world leader over the USA. How about Pelosi in Chinatown in Feb saying " it's safe, come out" Now she's started a commission to investigate whether the POTUS acted in time. He banned china from coming in when she & Schumer/Schift were wasting time & $$$ on fake Impeachment. Deblasio was in NYC saying come out & be NYer's too.

Everybody by some definition has an underlying condition - over 60? A bit overweight? High Blood pressure? Ate a candy bar before they tested your blood sugar? Allergies? Ingrown toenail?

NYC has a lot of homeless people (and or drug abusers) many streets smell like piss and you have to be careful no to step in these peoples shit too. Same for LA according to a good friends SO who wont work in downtown LA because of the lice problems and garbage piles (called "personal property" by the homeless proponents) from them.

My guess is that these are going to be easy targets for the virus and the first to pass from it.

NYC doesn't have any public bathrooms. Paris has them Lisbon has them the most of the rest of Europe has them .... wth?

You just described me in detail ;-)

Well, no allergies...

I talked to my bank first thing this morning about the SBA loans and they are not even ready to deal with this or accept applications... this is going to be a mess. Banks pushed back at the rate too for an increase because of their internal costs to process... like this was supposed to be convenient for them.

We are a small shop, and I am still paying my people so I can retain my entire team, but the cash-burn for is only going to last so long.

From what I read, I can apply for 2.5x my payroll and operating costs, and if I don't lay anyone off and hit all the other targets the loan can forgiven, but we'll see about that.

We generally operate on NET 30 terms and customer are already slowing down payments. I still got vendors to pay... and everyone is trying to protect their own cash flow.

Anyone who needs this money sooner than later is going to be in for a world of hurt.

It’s a risky click given it’s from the city of NY, but the bottom of their pdf lists specific morbidity conditions.

Lol! I'll take that chicken head. The brains are quite tasty. But you've got to try fish eyeballs. Interesting texture.

It depends on the person. Wearing gloves actively prevents me from touching my face. There are ways to take off gloves and masks to prevent contamination. I will agree that one needs to maintain 100% focus on not letting the old habits take over such as the handling of other objects while wearing protective gear.

What's more idiotic was people believing and parroting the "masks didn't help reduce risk" crap. I understand what was being accomplished by the guidances earlier on, but are people that dense to think masks will only help reduce risk based on your profession?

Haven't heard of impending actions related to martial law but wouldn't be surprised of that occurring if the population continues to believe the rules don't apply to them. Sheriff Gore in San Diego has begun to enforce the start at home order as mandatory (as it should be) with fines and possible jail time. No more free passes or leniency. I wish they would just toss them in jail because monetary fines are not immediately impactful. It's not like folks in CA take misdemeanor violations seriously anyway.

BofA has their application system up and is online only. The caveat is that they are only accepting applicants who they have existing relationships with at the moment. When they fund might be another story though.

Why are they counting the deaths from OTHER Reasons, but they HAD Covid-19 Even though IT DID NOT Kill them?? Too much sensationalism?

There’s lots of blame to go around. No use complaining about it. Bad decisions have been made. Lessons should be humbly learned and adjustments made to improve for the future. There should be a unified response order from the president to get the whole country on the same track. Enough of these weak state-by-state orders by wimpy governors, it will just increase the deaths and prolong the recovery. Stay home, stay isolated, wash your hands, etc. Soon there will be additional guidance to wear masks in public to act as spit shields.

The economy is already F’d. Time to shut it down, obey the health guidelines, defeat the viral spread, then work on getting the economy restarted. This is not just affecting the USA, it’s the whole world.

And by the way, farmers in states like Georgia desperately need workers to pick crops that are ready to harvest now. They can’t get the normal immigrant laborers due to the virus and other regulations. Wouldn’t it be grand if out-of-work US citizens went to work in the fields to help out the farmers, themselves, and the economy?

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. China excluded those deaths and they got shit for it. Now those including it are catching shit for it. No sense in being frustrated. Just know the differences in how the #s are being reported and adjust accordingly.