Originally Posted by engineeer

I've got 275/55R20 KO2s on it, so it's very capable off-road and on deep snow/slush/etc.. I haven't bothered with underbody protection because I rarely go rock crawling (whether with the 4Runner or the RRS) anymore due to lack of time.

Which year was your RRS? They are far more reliable on their new platform (2014+) and the majority of current reliability issues they get dinged for are centered around the 2014-2016 touchscreens being slow/unresponsive and the same issues with the new dual screen system on 2018+ models. Mine has been solid up to 40k miles. I'll be keeping it for a long time, so I'll get to see firsthand how it does up to 100k miles though it's CPO'd so I'm covered until then if things do go wrong.

That being said, if I had to pick between a 4Runner and a RRS to take out wayyyyy into the boonies I'd give the nod to the 4Runner. I say this as someone that had a lemon 2017 4R TRD Pro that had all sorts of reliability problems.

Originally Posted by LandCruiser

Is there anything that comes close to the 4Runner? I have not seen anything.

Wrangler, Gladiator, Grand Cherokee, Cherokee.

These are the closest competitors for me personally:

Lexus GX: inferior looks, full time 4WD, requires premium fuel

Dated design, Prado has been refreshed in other markets, GX hasn't. It doesn't need premium fuel, just a suggestion. Ugly AF.

Lexus LX: Same as GX, expensive

Really ugly Land Cruiser, get a proper LC instead of the LX.

Range Rover: expensive and notoriously unreliable, air suspension

Everything British is crap.

Tundra: too big if you aren't towing massive trailers regularly

Get an American truck if you need to tow something.

Tacoma: too small, wind noise

Drum brakes in a 35-45k medium size truck.

BMW X5: unibody, poor reliability

If you're looking at Germans, get the new Cayenne.

Does the 4Runner ruin you for other vehicles or is it just me?

Just you.

Originally Posted by Jetboy

Really depends on what you're doing with it.

For 90% of 4Runner owners - Highlander would be better.

For the rest it's kinda right between a Jeep GC/Subaru Outback and a Wrangler.

GX is of course very similar.
Land Cruiser 200 is just so fawking heavy, otherwise very capable. I think they'll be a great base for a family build when they get cheap enough to chop up and run 37's. On 35's they're still kind of a dog on the trails due to the weight.
Tahoe/Yukon are okay for hauling kiddos around and towing stuff. Not so much off road. But most 4Runner owners never go off road. I think that's why we see a lot of cross shopping between them.

Every midsize crossover is also sort of similar if you're not going offroad. That ranges from the Land Rovers to Jeep GC to the Honda Pilot. They're all different flavors of the same thing.

The new bronco will probably be the closest market competitor. My guess is that it will do everything better except reliability when it comes out. It should. The 4Runner is really fawking old. It should be much better in the drivetrain department in terms of power, power delivery, modern transmission, turbo, etc. The only issue I see is that it's a Ford, so it'll be questionable in reliability and durability. Even so - probably better than a Wrangler in both categories. I foresee a lot of defectors. I haven't owned a Ford since the early 90's, and the new Bronco looks compelling to me. If Toyota doesn't bring something great with the new Land Cruiser - I might buy my first non-toyota vehicle in a very long time.

Another option - LC100 or LC80. Both are comparable to the 4Runner in their own way.

Originally Posted by Jetboy

Land Cruiser 200 is just so fawking heavy, otherwise very capable. I think they'll be a great base for a family build when they get cheap enough to chop up and run 37's. On 35's they're still kind of a dog on the trails due to the weight.

Another option - LC100 or LC80. Both are comparable to the 4Runner in their own way.

Originally Posted by Jetboy

Really depends on what you're doing with it.

For 90% of 4Runner owners - Highlander would be better.

For the rest it's kinda right between a Jeep GC/Subaru Outback and a Wrangler.

GX is of course very similar.
Land Cruiser 200 is just so fawking heavy, otherwise very capable. I think they'll be a great base for a family build when they get cheap enough to chop up and run 37's. On 35's they're still kind of a dog on the trails due to the weight.
Tahoe/Yukon are okay for hauling kiddos around and towing stuff. Not so much off road. But most 4Runner owners never go off road. I think that's why we see a lot of cross shopping between them.

Every midsize crossover is also sort of similar if you're not going offroad. That ranges from the Land Rovers to Jeep GC to the Honda Pilot. They're all different flavors of the same thing.

The new bronco will probably be the closest market competitor. My guess is that it will do everything better except reliability when it comes out. It should. The 4Runner is really fawking old. It should be much better in the drivetrain department in terms of power, power delivery, modern transmission, turbo, etc. The only issue I see is that it's a Ford, so it'll be questionable in reliability and durability. Even so - probably better than a Wrangler in both categories. I foresee a lot of defectors. I haven't owned a Ford since the early 90's, and the new Bronco looks compelling to me. If Toyota doesn't bring something great with the new Land Cruiser - I might buy my first non-toyota vehicle in a very long time.

Another option - LC100 or LC80. Both are comparable to the 4Runner in their own way.