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I have a minivan that I beat on.
Either way, I won’t lose sleep on what may or may not happen in the future. I am just enjoying the ride now.
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10-23-2020, 05:58 PM
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Probably largely due to the newer crop of buyers who chase the latest tech all the time. Transportation is often the second or third reason some folks buy a vehicle these days.
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Some of us just want a good vehicle to drive.
And a CD player.
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10-23-2020, 06:02 PM
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Some of us just want a good vehicle to drive.
And a CD player.
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I like my 2019, but I'm with you. As long as it also has AC.
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10-24-2020, 11:13 AM
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LIke I said over here in this thread it seems like there is a lot of confusion at the top of Toyota's SUV offerings.
Land Cruiser 2022
4Runner
-$42k
-V6 5 spd
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-Ind. front, Solid rear
Sequoia
- $65k (Limited 4wd JBL)
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-Independent front and rear
-v8 6spd
Land Cruiser
-$85k
-Unitized body on ladder frame (BOF)
-Solid axle rear, ind. front
-v8 8 spd
Who would pay $85k for a LC when you could get a Sequoia for $65k? Maybe someone who is well off and knows vehicles but most likely at those price levels the market for the LC I see is wealthy “Country Club Bob” or “LPGA Mary” types and not off road enthusiasts. If you want luxury and “status” then I see people buying the GX. You can get them for a lot less than the LC. I dont really consider Lexus a “status” vehicle anyhow. MB G wagon, here seem to be driven buy Russian “gangster” wanna-be’s or immigrant nouveau riche. That’s not the kind of status I’m interested in. They are definitely not off road types.
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Honestly, for durability and quality, I don't really see the Sequoia on par with either of the others. I think there is definitely a premium on long term reliability with vehicles built in Japan vs America, regardless of the badge stuck on them. Maybe it's just my perception though.
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10-24-2020, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Gamma Ray
Some of us just want a good vehicle to drive.
And a CD player.
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What's a CD player? Wait, people still use those?
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10-24-2020, 08:35 PM
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Honestly, for durability and quality, I don't really see the Sequoia on par with either of the others. I think there is definitely a premium on long term reliability with vehicles built in Japan vs America, regardless of the badge stuck on them. Maybe it's just my perception though.
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10-25-2020, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Thai
LC is all about durability, reliability, and strength as quoted by LC engineer above. It is about capability and comfort rolled in one.
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I'm guessing few realize the potential of the platform, designed to last 25 years without major issue.
To jump sand dunes in the Sahara, or to be fully up-armored, and get the occupants to safely, in the middle of a war zone.. 
The pick-up version I'm looking to buy en Costa Rica, costs $44K, but add $16K in taxes, because it's a quasi-communist govt, so it goes.
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10-25-2020, 07:48 PM
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As of today (10/25/20), there are only 4 LC available on eBay for the years 2016-2020. And they are very overpriced!
On LC forums, it is nearly impossible to find a good one at decent price.
So, the scalping has started....
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10-26-2020, 04:56 AM
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Well, by that list, I'd be better off buying a full size GMC/Chevy SUV than a 4Runner...
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10-26-2020, 10:02 AM
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Well, by that list, I'd be better off buying a full size GMC/Chevy SUV than a 4Runner...
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One of my coworker has a Suburban 2wd with 650,000 miles!  Looks kinda like sh!t, but still runs fine...daily driver.
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10-26-2020, 12:09 PM
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One of my coworker has a Suburban 2wd with 650,000 miles! Looks kinda like sh!t, but still runs fine...daily driver. |
I wouldn't doubt it. This is my first Toyota, prior to that, I've had mostly GM full size SUV's and trucks, in 23 years, I had one catastrophic failure. I thrashed my HD rearend Eaton E-locker due to my own stupidity. Fact is, if they weren't so expensive, I would have had another Yukon rather than my 4R.
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