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Old 10-08-2021, 07:56 AM #1
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Jeep trash talks Ford...
The President Of Jeep Takes Shots At Ford's Timberline Trim

and then there's this...

VOIDED Factory Warranty after taking it through mud | Jeep Gladiator Forum - JeepGladiatorForum.com
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The warranty being voided due to off-reading (of any kind) is a common theme for most (if not all) manufacturers. I have heard Toyota doing same thing for Tacoma owners etc..
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Was in a wrangler for over 3 years. When the Bronco announcement came I started looking deeper. Interesting part, same thing Nissan does to Toyota, ford does to Chevy etc. if the existing vehicle has 400hp and 403 Ft lb torque the new one will have 410 hp and 415 ft lb torque. Bronco had x amount more cargo room, x amount more hp and torque and x amount of tires, clearance, etc. It is a nickels and dimes game. We have leased and driven a lot of vehicles, morale of the story, go drive it, if you like it, get it. Our rubi statistically beats the 4Runner in many categories. But! As a daily driver (stats that are not included) the 4Runner is better for us.
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Technically he is correct.

edit: my God looking through that Jeep forum. Wow...the problems experienced are criminal.
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I have had several Jeeps over many years, I'm 69, and they served me well at the time no more trouble than the other brands I've owned. Back in 2016 we were looking at used 4 door Wranglers when we stumbled on a FJ Cruiser, we both liked it better than the jeeps and if I wouldn't of totaled it in a wreck I'd still be driving it. Looking at newer replacements we again looked at 4 door wranglers and 4Runners and again the Toyota felt better so here I am with a 2020 T4R SR5 Premium that I've owned for 4 days, I hope it continues to impress me.
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Mt (older even) 4Runner is a far better daily driver and it should be with the IFS. However, that is exactly what makes my Wrangler a far better off-road vehicle, especially the really tough slow steep stuff. We don't get much mud here and I avoid mud when I do see it, so that part is nice. If I ever sold the Wrangler, I'd do a solid axle conversion on the 4R. That would be a cool project.

The Bronco is a solid effort on Ford's part though. It is very interesting.
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