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Old 05-01-2022, 10:13 PM #16
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I'm also curious how durable and reliable they will be in the long run but, reading through the tundra forums currently and there seems to be a high amount of issues with not only the new engine but with the entire new tundra.
The most common stuff I read about having issues are CEL's, turbo waste-gate actuators, wind noise, mirror issues, random stalling, and wiring issues. If the trend continues, it could end up being the most troublesome vehicle launch toyota has ever done.

Are you seeing issues with the new tundra at your dealership?
We've mainly run into turbo wastegates sticking, supposedly they've fixed the issue in newer vehicles? Some sort of production quirk/error, though I'm not sure?

We have seen some QC issues like an unplugged mirror from the factory, or some bits and pieces not fitting properly. But honestly the biggest thing has mainly been the wastegate issue that I have seen so far. I don't know if it's Toyota's worst launch, but you can certainly see they were really pushing to release it in 2022 despite all the issues related to the last couple years.

We'll see how it goes entering the second half of the year, if things get better or worse QC wise?
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"Dozens" have had problems ...while 30,000 have been delivered. Not a bad ratio for a complete reboot vehicle. Plus, if you buy a Ford instead of a Toyota, you've got to expect more problems.
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"Dozens" have had problems ...while 30,000 have been delivered. Not a bad ratio for a complete reboot vehicle. Plus, if you buy a Ford instead of a Toyota, you've got to expect more problems.
See that's sort of the thing... I've been hearing the EcoBoosts have been having these type of valvetrain and engine issues since it was introduced in the F150's and 4-banger variants. That 2.7L "Nano" V6 has been in service since 2015 in the F150's and the 2nd Gen variant was plopped in their trucks in 2018, followed by the Bronco in 2021; so it's not a "teething" issue as this engine has been around for at least 4-5yrs in it's current incarnation.

I haven't looked into it more seriously than word of mouth from persons in the industry I trust who have had 1st hand experience with those issues; mainly because I have had better things to do and no one asks me about those engines or Ford's products really. lol

I can say that Chrysler likes to downplay their Hemi engines and their habit for dropping valve seats among other issues (it's only been an uncommon issue for over a decade now).

So the couple articles saying "well it's only been a dozen Bronco owners complaining about it on the forums!" sorts tells me the issue is more likely close to hundreds or maybe up to a thousand. Enthusiast forums are an extremely small niche and so trends/patterns of failure need to be taken with a grain of salt (both ways) when considering the "full extent" of an issue. Ford would be the only one who knows how truly significant the extent of these failures are and they won't release that information until they are legally required to.

At the end of the day, it could just be normal for such tiny engines being squeezed for everything they can give; hard to say honestly without really digging into it.
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A RAM TRX was parked in front of our house yesterday. It’s a great looking truck.
I get that the 6.2 may have issues (or probably will). It’s just a shame that Toyota can’t make a truck that looks as good and is as nice inside.
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