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Old 08-02-2023, 12:50 AM #1
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and is this the end of the 4runner? Or if there is a new 4R, it'll definitely be the 4 cylinder turbo, smaller footprint at 35 - 40K price point?
I hope there's one (or two) more years of the 5th gen.

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and is this the end of the 4runner? Or if there is a new 4R, it'll definitely be the 4 cylinder turbo, smaller footprint at 35 - 40K price point?
I hope there's one (or two) more years of the 5th gen.

I donít see it being the end of the 4Runner. The 4Runner is one of Toyotaís best selling vehicles, I donít see them hanging that up.


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New 4runner is going Bronco sport style. It's what 80% of buyers want anyways.
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The front end is quite unimaginative. The lower valance and grill looks 5th gen ish. The big blocks under the headlights are...well....
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I doubt it. Toyota already has a fleet full of unibody cross overs. 4Runner will stay BOF.
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I doubt it. Toyota already has a fleet full of unibody cross overs. 4Runner will stay BOF.
The 4runner and this new LC will be too similar and competitive price wise. A lot of speculation that something has to give to keep the updated 4R in its own category. That or they choke the supply numbers of this new LC and markups go through the roof. There is a reason the 4R is the last to be updated and I think it will be a surprise for a lot of us.
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I saw the LC add today about the 4 cylinder and electric motor. I don't use my 4runners to their level but I'm not keen on electric motors. I'm sure they're fine but I like the 5th gen model.

I also thought the LC front looked similar to the Bronco; unsure about that.
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Moving from 5th Gen to General Discussion.
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The new LC looks pretty darn good if you wanted something a bit smaller/lighter than the current model for trails, and the resulting better performance. This new one looks VERY interesting with rear lockers and electronic swaybar disconnects standard. Hoping that it can take 33s without any body modifications or messed up caster.

It could be my next offroad rig unless I fall prey to that Rubicon 392's siren song.
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Here is man standing next to LC. How can there also be a 4runner?
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Here is man standing next to LC. How can there also be a 4runner?
Itís a goner. The question is will they run 24 as is, or will they burn inventory until production ramps up. Guess weíll find out this month or next. New Year production starts in August I think.
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"Here is man standing next to LC. How can there also be a 4runner?"

Would it be different if it was a woman? I don't understand how that one man makes the 4Runner disappear.
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Just now saw the Top Gear piece on the new LC. I think they like it if you read past the title.

America’s new Toyota Land Cruiser is a boxy-butch hybrid | Top Gear
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It will be interesting to see. I think if the prices are not too far apart, then the 4R will become more like the new Pathfinder and the LC will be the true off-roader. If the prices are far apart ($15K, for example) then the 4R will simple be the cheaper and less capable vehicle. The current LC is nice enough but too fat and ponderous to be an off-roader unless we are talking about open trails and prairies. I certainly would not buy one in Colorado.
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