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Old 08-09-2024, 10:39 AM #1
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AWD is not 4WD
What do you guys think?

National Park Service Will Cite Drivers Of AWD Cars For Driving On 4WD-Only Trails
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I agree with the article about the differences between AWD and 4WD. 99% of the vehicles with AWD do not have the ground clearance, articulation or traction to get across bad spots in the trail. Watch Matt's Off-Road Recovery YouTube and you'll see plenty of examples of him having to rescue foolish people who took their vehicles on trails they shouldn't be on.
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Its definitely a gray area and a lot of different statements on what constitutes 4wd vs awd. We have a 2017 highlander XLE, which is AWD, which states it has a locking center differential. definitely not the ground clearance or articulation, but is the Awd/ 4wd system different than the limited 4runners that are AWD with locking center differential. Or is it the presence of the low range 4wd, which 4runners would have, but not the highlander

IE honda pilot, honda ridgeline, honda passport, Rav4, Jeep Cherokee - especially those ones that have off road badging
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Maybe the park service needs to start 'rating' vehicles...on what qualifies or not by their definition and testing.

Then they can give out true 'trail rated' badges to the manufacturer's models that earn them...
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There are a lot of properly built subarus that do a lot of the 4x4 trails with ease.
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I have heard many times several 'experts' who will tell you...even the legendary Toyota LC100/200, with full time 4WD arent truly in 4-wheel drive mode until you lock the center diff...

if they are going to make this a requirement, then they need to task someone with making a list of vehicles that they will allow on these trails.

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I guess they have to draw a line somewhere
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There is a big difference as others mentioned. 4x4 or nothing!
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