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Old 04-13-2010, 06:10 PM #121
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Well I was actually referring to an automatic transmission, you use both feet for more control.
With a manual you really have no other choice but to use 2 feet...ideally it'd be great to have 3 feet for that! haha

true true....4 would be even more ideal....cuz you'd still have a foot to brace with!
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Well I was actually referring to an automatic transmission, you use both feet for more control.
With a manual you really have no other choice but to use 2 feet...ideally it'd be great to have 3 feet for that! haha
so yes, you are talking about using your left foot on the brake while the right is on the gas to transfer weight to the front wheels? known in the rally community as LFB.
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so yes, you are talking about using your left foot on the brake while the right is on the gas to transfer weight to the front wheels? known in the rally community as LFB.
no....its actually a delicate balance of using your right foot on both the brake and gas.....and getting the combo right, while your left is using the clutch to engage and disengage as you are going over obtacles.
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true true....4 would be even more ideal....cuz you'd still have a foot to brace with!
that's why you wear a seatbelt. heel/toeing and LFBing solve all of these dilemmas.
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that's why you wear a seatbelt. heel/toeing and LFBing solve all of these dilemmas.
i'm talking about leaning out and bracing while driving over an obstacle....seatbelts are great for holding ya in your seat.......not so great when u wanna peer at something thru the window.
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i'm talking about leaning out and bracing while driving over an obstacle....seatbelts are great for holding ya in your seat.......not so great when u wanna peer at something thru the window.
ah. my ignorance revealed.

but in that case I doubt you'll be LFBing anyway, I doubt you'll be peering out the window while you're moving fast enough to load the front wheels by tapping the brake.
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no....its actually a delicate balance of using your right foot on both the brake and gas.....and getting the combo right, while your left is using the clutch to engage and disengage as you are going over obtacles.
AKA heel/toe. got it. but that's not what LINY is talking about.

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Well I was actually referring to an automatic transmission, you use both feet for more control.
With a manual you really have no other choice but to use 2 feet...ideally it'd be great to have 3 feet for that! haha
he's talking about an automatic so the only reason he'd use both feet would be for LFBing.
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I think the 3rd gen has a great balance of comfort, practicality and simplicity.
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Well, I can tell you one thing, the last thing John is a fanboy... if anything he is a VW and Land Rover fanboy. He has nothing but a critical approach to the 4runner which is where he got his appreciation for it.

and not to get too much into this, but making a frame stronger means nothing when you make the exterior weaker... which is why any car from the 60's would rip thru a new 4runner like its butter... the actual body of a 3rd gen should slow down another car signifigantly before it hits the frame...

I find it funny that new cars need more side airbags and safety features when their early predecessors needed none of that. all that was done was sacrifice weight and gas mileage to make a lighter plasticky car. And this is not just a Toyota thing...

when was the last time a metal bumper was put on a 4runner?? 3rd gen... that bumper alone improves the strength of the vehicle.. just ask the 4th gen owner in my apt complex with a busted up bumper and mine that has run into rocks and is still fine...

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This has got to be 1 of the most ridiculous statements made on this forum. A car in the 60 was a safety nightmare compared to cars made now. A 3rd gen is 100% safer than any big no airbag having cheap seat belt 60ish vehicle. A modern vehicle is actually survivable in many roll over crashes or when you hit something like a tree at certain speeds. A 60ish car with all that heavy steel would just crumble around you and kill you on impact. A 3rd gen does not meet current federal safety standards set for modern cars and is not nearly as safe in a serious crash as a 5th gen 4 runner. As much as I love my 3rd gen it is not better than our 5th gen in measurable categories.
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3rd gen vs 5th gen
parking garage neighbors... My 3rd gen has a 3" suspension and 2" body lift. Not sure what the 5th gen has rocking but notice the clearance difference between the undercarriages and door rockers.

Moms still trying to get my to buy her 5th gen... She shouldn't have sold me her 3rd gen! Just passed 200k miles and she's purring like a kitty... 300k more planned.

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