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Old 09-06-2018, 02:15 AM #16
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Thanks for the tip! I'll give it a shot for sure!
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Old 09-06-2018, 12:20 PM #17
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I recently got a WHITE 2004 T4R sport. If you haven’t had a white vehicle or heard people *****ing about it, the Toyota white is not a clear coat over paint application, it’s mixed in with the paint or something. A wash and wax would last 1 week max before returning to a powdery-like sheen. Also anything that would sit on the paint for more than a few minutes would sort of “stain” and require polishing/buffing.

I was looking into ceramic/nano coatings and was scared, but decided to go with the McKee’s 37 product because it seemed like it would give me the benefits I wanted with a decent price and be able to apply it myself. I knew this product wasn’t going to deliver the deepest shine or probably last the longest, but I could do it myself. Application was easy after proper prep and it made a world of difference for my paint. The product is extremely hydrophobic, eliminated all the “cloudy/dusty” look to my finish and definitely collects less dirt.

Foaming, light sponging, and rinse/squeegee/micro fiber wipe brings it right back to looking freshly buffed and waxed. My only issues are, the recommended “after care” spray product from McKee’s seems to make the finish less shiny for some reason, and even though you get enough to do 2 or possibly 3 cars, there’s no good way to clean the pump sprayer without contaminating the product, so the pump is clogged after the first use and the kit only comes with one application sponge (which again is good for one use). This stuff also seals yellowed headlights after polishing and keeps them clear.

So for those so inclined, this product is the best of both worlds for a DIYer. It may not be as good as CQuartz or whatever, but it costs a lot less and provides good protection and they say it should last at least a year or two!
I assume you're using Mckee's longer lasting coating that applies like a traditional sealant where you let it cure and buff off right?

For my fleet of cars (and family), I rarely handwash anything but for the once a year when I clay and apply their si02 spray and rinse product. It lasts 3-4 months if you handwash the paint, but I'm pretty sure it lasts longer if you don't need a spotless car. I only ran mine through touchless car washes over winter, and I swear it was still doing something.

If you handwash with any regularity and can settle with your paint looking 95% great, I would highly recommend Mckee's si02. My routine: Powerwash the paint once a week or every other week, handwash every other month, apply si02 every 3 months during a wash, and clay once a year.

It's so painless and quick, and your 4R will look damn clean if you drive it after every rain shower to sheet off the water beads before it dries.
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Old 09-06-2018, 12:45 PM #18
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The new "spray-on-wipe-off ceramic coatings" coming-out these days are amazing. Hydrosilex's Recharge is another.
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The new "spray-on-wipe-off ceramic coatings" coming-out these days are amazing. Hydrosilex's Recharge is another.
Amen from a "now old" detailer.

Started in highschool, used stuff like Meg 16 and Poorboy Natty Wax.
Quickly accumulated a hole bunch of stuff and never used them because I found Collinite 845.
Shortly after, found Zaino Clear seal (wipe on, walk away).
Then ZCS expired and no longer worked well, bought Optimum Opti coat.
Before I even get through half the bottle, I stumbled upon the spray and rinse coatings.

NEVER
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Winter prep on 2x 4Runners, 2x sedans, and a hatchback used to take several weekends.

With the advent of clay sponges/mitts and the spray on, rinse off coatings, I can do all 5 vehicles over a single back breaking weekend. Love sealing all surfaces without taping stuff off or "avoiding" trim.

I have to "LOL" at $1000 ceramic coatings as it simply isn't worth it on a daily driver. Sure it may "harden" the paint marginally, but even if you have PPF film, if a large enough rock bounces off your bumper, it isn't going to be unscathed. You still have to handwash your car, and you inherit the hassle of dealing with water spots and additional upkeep. For an exotic car, it makes sense. On a 4R that MIGHT even see a pin-stripping trail?-no way.

Funny thing, on most days, both the '99 and '03 4runner look nicer than 90% of the 4runners on the road that are 15 years newer... even moreso after a rain shower (at least from 20' away)

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Old 09-06-2018, 02:09 PM #20
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Funny thing, on most days, both the '99 and '03 4runner look nicer than 90% of the 4runners on the road that are 15 years newer... (at least from 20' away)
Full Xpel Ultimate+ bra and spray-on ceramic coating, periodic details and maintenance washes, is my solution to maintaining my candy glass Super White as much as possible.
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Old 09-18-2018, 07:42 AM #21
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There are mixed reviews on ceramic coatings, personally I love them and have them on a number of my vehicles. As manufacturers have tried to reduce cost some items suffer paint has been 1 of them, in my opinion this adds some additional protection and easier maintenance. I too have applied to rims and also 1 set of calipers and on top of clear bra.

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I heard it isnt worth it in Vegas. Anyone have experience?
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I personally think the ceramic coating isn't worth the money and stress. Check out the swirl damage that happened after the dealer washed it, even though I told them not to. The story is on the youtube description if you care to read it, it's a very long story. Short story, improper washing can scratch the coating very easy.


Now, it could also be a factor of ceramic coating NOT properly installed by the detailed shop. Where they could've rushed the application between the coatings (where bonding didn't happened properly, it's all a guess).

A lot of headaches for sure, I say just invest more for clear film or just keep the factory paint since it can polish much easier.
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My thoughts on ceramic coating:

1. Yes, a coating is worth it. It has made maintaining my vehicles far less time consuming and they always look good. However, you must keep up on the washing and keep the vehicle clean in order to get the maximum effects they provide and longest durability.

2. While I'm sure the pro-grade stuff is far more durable, you might want to learn the whole detailing process and do it yourself!
+1 on learning the process yourself. It will definitely take you a couple days to get it completed if you're going to start from decontamination, paint correct, polish, then coat. However, it is such a satisfying process.

If anyone here is a hobby detailer/side gig (as I do, I'm a broke ass college student) Obsessed Garage is the place to be. Obsessed Garage | Home Of The Obsessed

I've done a couple ceramic coats using GTechnique & then the beadmaker in between washes... it's an awesome combo.
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A ceramic coating is a great option for protecting your car's paint. I do detailing on the side for some extra money here and there, and I love to do it. I would recommend using Adams Polishes wheel coating on the paint if you are going to coat it. The wheel coating is a little bit thicker and it is intended for the wheels because of all the heat that it gets from the brakes. It lasts longer than the regular paint coating. Either way the paint or wheel coating is a great choice. I paint corrected my car and made the paint as perfect as I could get it. I then put the wheel coating on it and it is very impressive. The pollen in Colorado has been coming in strong recently. and I just washed it for the second time with the coating installed and man, it is like crazy impressive. it has been rainy and went here too so I drive through water and there is all this black dirt on the back end of the car. I used my pressure washer to clean the car off and it would have been clean without washing the car with a mit and soap. (I still foamed it up and did the full detail) It makes cleaning a BREEZE. Let me know if you have any questions. I would be happy to help. I help out at the Adams Polishes warehouse in Thorton, CO for the in house detailing, so I know some good tips and tricks.
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Recently got into a black 2020 ORP (first black vehicle). I went with a ceramic coating + xpel and have been very pleased with how water beads of the car. After the paint correction, it looked better than new. Virtually no rain spots now after storms. Xpel is only on the front half of the vehicle per the detailer's recommendation.
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