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Old 09-18-2019, 08:47 PM #1
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Water Spots

Folks, I'm battling water spots washing my '19 4Runner. What can I do to avoid water spots?

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I use a bit of liquid cascade. Add a little to a bucket of water and do a quick wipe down. It should rinse clean, make sure to not wash or dry in direct sunlight.
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Interesting about the Cascade, I’m surprised I’ve never heard of using it like that before.

Like he said, avoid the sun like the plague.

If you wash often, you could try switching to a “rinseless wash”.

I switched to doing rinseless washes when I started detailing because I hated chasing my tail trying to constantly keep the vehicle wet to avoid water spots.

I’ve started using traditional soaps again, but I think I’m going to go back to rinseless for doing dark vehicles in the sun.

Sad thing is that nice clean protected paint beads water, and hard water and beading creates spots.



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Interesting about the Cascade, I’m surprised I’ve never heard of using it like that before.

Like he said, avoid the sun like the plague.

If you wash often, you could try switching to a “rinseless wash”.

I switched to doing rinseless washes when I started detailing because I hated chasing my tail trying to constantly keep the vehicle wet to avoid water spots.

I’ve started using traditional soaps again, but I think I’m going to go back to rinseless for doing dark vehicles in the sun.

Sad thing is that nice clean protected paint beads water, and hard water and beading creates spots.



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It was a bit sunny so that didn't help. What brand of rinseless wash do you use? I'm finding out the hard way about the darker colors...I've had silver vehicles the last 15 years and they hide it well. We have soft water but I don't know if my outside spigots run through the softener.
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Use Optimum No Rinse...and if water spots are struggling to come off, it sounds like you need a really really light polish to pull them out.

You want to look for soaps that offer a softening to the water its mixed in....

Furthermore...to prevent build up of future water spots, dont let the sun dry the water....and apply a good paint sealant or wax.

Stuff that is difficult to remove from paint is a good indicator that there is not much protection between the clear coat and the environment.

Other washing tips, clean and dry one panel at a time, start from top. make sure panels are cool to the touch first to slow drying effect of hard water, and if you are fast, wash the entire car outside, dry car off in garage.

and if you do dry in garage, just make sure to continuously spray the vehicle down as you put soap on each panel.
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I ordered some Optimum no rinse and will give that a shot. Also to note, this just came back from body shop last week and my body guy told me not to wax for 90 days. The whole left side was replaced and repainted.
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I would definitely limit the amount of washing you do between now and then....washing a car is a catch 22.

You damage your paint while cleaning it but the ultimate objective is to prevent stuff from adhering or being absorbed into the clear coat. But yeah, take is advice on waiting for the wax. It needs to cure.

The less you wash it the better off it will be in the long run. You will probably notice that the repainted side will probably develop swirls over time way worse than the OEM paint.

Id aim for washing it once a month for dust and dirt. if you got bugs, 2 to 3 weeks. But bear in mind those times are based on have some sort of protection down before hand.

Letting it slip for the time being? totally okay, you wont see any adverse effects.

Thats one scoop of experience I have dealing with paint anyways...OEM & non OEM paint.
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I have the same color and the same problem. I don’t fret over them, just wax over until the next wash. And I don’t wash/wax in the sun, either. But now you have me wondering if a thorough final rinse using distilled water would help. The deposits are crud in the water, which distilled doesn’t have. I may try this next time.
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Yes, a distilled water rinse is also a way to go.

To the OP; ONR is fine. That was the first one I tried.

I think I may like Wolfgang’s rinseless the most out of the ones I’ve used but it’s not as cost effective as others are and the difference between most of them is really minor.

I buy the wax and the non wax version McKees 37 for my small side business. I use the non wax one (N-914) a lot for light interior cleaning also


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Thanks all for the advise! It was cloudy today and I washed it with Optimum No Rinse. Fast and easy...I didn't believe that it would be faster than the traditional way of washing but it was!

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glad it worked well. PM me if you want any more detail products tip and tricks. Ive been doing it for at least 10 years now.
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I am a big detailer, I have coatings out the rear, waxes, everything you can pretty much dream of. I have heard very good things about this product offered by CarPro. It is called Car Pro Spotless, it is a water spot remover and it works like a charm for what I have seen. Just put a little bit on a soft microfiber towel and wipe away. here is the link to it on amazon. its pretty cheap.

https://www.amazon.com/Spotless-Wate...6963148&sr=8-5
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