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One more thing, the service advisor told me that 2WD model doesn't have transfer case fluid, only differential fluid. But when I looked up in the manual it says 1.5 qrts. Please enlighten me,,,
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10-22-2008, 12:23 AM
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One more thing, the service advisor told me that 2WD model doesn't have transfer case fluid, only differential fluid. But when I looked up in the manual it says 1.5 qrts. Please enlighten me,,,
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That is correct.
The owner's manual is generic in the sense that it's for every 4Runner of that model year, be it a V6 or V8, 2WD or 4WD; and trim SR5, SE, Limited. It will also cover options that may or may not be present on yours.
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Re: Dealer serviced my AFT-WS
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Dealer flushed and changed the transmission fluid for my 2006 2WD 4Runner SportEdition today. Here is the story: After waiting for about 1 1/2 hours at the dealer, the service advisor came to me and told me that my car is ready. I went to cashier to pay for the service and took the receip outside to pick up my 4Runner. While I was waiting the lot attendant to deliver my SUV, I read the receipt and it stated like this "perform transmission fluid flush using a two part kit. The transmission cleaner is installed into the old fluid and the vehicle is taken on a road test to ensure proper shift quality and overall transmission performance. After which, using the specialized equipment our factory trained technician flushes out the torque converter, cooler & lines, valve body & trans pan using up to 10 qrts of new fluid to evacuate virtually all of the old depleted fluid. Then install the ATF supplement to protect against thermal break down and foaming to help extend the fluid life completed as requested. 1 qrt trans additive = $29.95, 8 qrts Castrol ATF = $23.60 and labor = $53.55." I was mad, approached the service advisor and asked him that "is it that the sealed transmission required AFT WS? He called couple technicians and asked about it and told me to wait another 1/2 hour so his tech. could replace the AFT WS. Anyway, if I have to start over again, I probably say nothing to them, just take my SUV and drive for a few trips to see how it performs under Castrol ATF with trans additive before complaining about it. I'm not sure the tech. replace the AFT WS fluid after I complained about it or not, but the truck's shifting pattern is about the same before the service. However, it drives a little lighter, may be because the tech. inflated the tires that why it drives lighter. Please advise...........
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Get them to give you a copy of the internal work order for replacing the Castrol with WS and make sure it has your VIN on it. In 3 years you could live somewhere else and get screwed! If you have a trans issue they may claim you used the wrong fluid. Get it documeneted!
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I just got my transmission fluid flushed and refilled but now each time I "put the pedal to the floor" I smell a bad odor coming from the vehicle. I checked the fluid levels from the dipstick and all seems normal. Is this common after you flush out the tranny fluids? The smell is like a bad skunk or burnt smell. It has been two weeeks and at first I thought it was other vehicles in traffic but now came to a conclusion it is my 4runner. Any input?
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Originally posted by gotpakalolo
I just got my transmission fluid flushed and refilled but now each time I "put the pedal to the floor" I smell a bad odor coming from the vehicle. I checked the fluid levels from the dipstick and all seems normal. Is this common after you flush out the tranny fluids? The smell is like a bad skunk or burnt smell. It has been two weeeks and at first I thought it was other vehicles in traffic but now came to a conclusion it is my 4runner. Any input?
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I reluctantly just had mine flushed and filled@ my dealer. The tech was great, let me watch, knew what he was doing and parts gave me 20% off the WS fluid. The tech told me he hasn't serviced a trans. with WS fluid that doesn't come out clean. I saw my old fluid with 60k hard miles on it and it looked brand new. It does feel to shift better after the service though but that may just be in my head? On the way home I noticed a slight hint of ATF smell that went away within 10 minutes. I figured the odor got into the Cabin air filter. you may have a leak with yours?
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h-bone714:
I went through almost the same with my dealer service several years ago. I wanted a WS ATF "flush" at their coupon price. I was set to pay and the invoice wasn't right. After several visits they finally admitted they couldn't do a WS exchange. We settled by my getting 16 liters of the WS fluid and I did the exchange myself.
Now, I have over 100,000 miles and am preparing for a second "flush" (exchange) through the trans cooler line. I have recently purchased 12 quarts of Walmart's Dexron VI for this.
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removing the transmission pan
2004 4Runner V8 Sport: My 4Runner has an exhaust pipe running under the transmission pan, and I can't find enough room to remove the pan. I can tilt it and remove more fluid, but I simply can't find a way to remove it due to lack of space. Has anyone else had this trouble or had to remove the exhaust pipe section to drop the pan?
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Another option: If you Google Kirt Koeller, you'll see he's a guru for ZF transmissions, people bring their cars from far away. I dropped in to see him when I had a BMW. His suggestion is to drain the transmission, then turn the engine/transmission pump with the starter to pump the rest of the fluid out the drain hole. Keep track of how much came out and replace that much. Turn the engine again with the starter, then start the engine and run it up to temp so you can check the level. Of course, you have to disable the ignition so you don't actually start the engine when you're pumping fluid out.
This is a guy who has all the facilities to do it any way he want to, but that's how he does it. On a ZF he drops the pan after the initial draining, so he can change the filter.
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Anyone done this on a 2005 4Runner V6?
I changed the ATF fluid on my wife's 4Runner last weekend following most of the steps listed in all the DIY guides and the jumpin the ODBC ports (whatever they're called) to enter into Temperature check mode. I also own an '06 Tacoma and completed this recently on that so figured there would be no issues. On the Tacoma, I entered into the Transmission Temp Check mode this morning and it took 14 minutes to go from cold of 68 degrees up to the checking temperature of 115 degrees. I needed to do this on the 4Runner this morning to get the level right and wanted a comparison.
The 4Runner went from 68 degrees to a solid lit A/T oil temp light (should be at 115) 2 minutes later, and then flashing A/T oil temp light about 15 minutes after that.
The group consensus and manuals say that running temperature is when the light is solid and too hot is when the light flashes, however I can't believe the 4Runner got up to the correct temp in 2 minutes (start at 68 then hitting 115 2 minutes later) and then took 15 more minutes to go from 115- 125. I did a quick overflow check when the light lit the first time and none came out of the overflow and the fluid inside was cold. So I replugged it and opened it back up as soon as it started flashing (too hot).
Has anyone else noticed this or done this procedure on an '05 4Runner?
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I changed the ATF fluid on my wife's 4Runner last weekend following most of the steps listed in all the DIY guides and the jumpin the ODBC ports (whatever they're called) to enter into Temperature check mode. I also own an '06 Tacoma and completed this recently on that so figured there would be no issues. On the Tacoma, I entered into the Transmission Temp Check mode this morning and it took 14 minutes to go from cold of 68 degrees up to the checking temperature of 115 degrees. I needed to do this on the 4Runner this morning to get the level right and wanted a comparison.
The 4Runner went from 68 degrees to a solid lit A/T oil temp light (should be at 115) 2 minutes later, and then flashing A/T oil temp light about 15 minutes after that.
The group consensus and manuals say that running temperature is when the light is solid and too hot is when the light flashes, however I can't believe the 4Runner got up to the correct temp in 2 minutes (start at 68 then hitting 115 2 minutes later) and then took 15 more minutes to go from 115- 125. I did a quick overflow check when the light lit the first time and none came out of the overflow and the fluid inside was cold. So I replugged it and opened it back up as soon as it started flashing (too hot).
Has anyone else noticed this or done this procedure on an '05 4Runner?
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Did you let the 4Runner warm-up in gear with the p-brake on and Taco in N or P? That makes a HUGE difference in the amount of time required...
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Flushed Today
I flushed my 4Runner's transmission today. I'm glad I did. I have the V8 with the "sealed" transmission. Replaced with Amsoil WS Compliant Low Viscosity fluid.
Saying I am unimpressed with the Toyota WS is too harsh, but it was definitely darker and not as sweet smelling as I was expecting with only 60K miles. Full disclosure: I've towed a 5500 lb boat from Seattle-Houston-Seattle. . .twice. . so the transmission has been put through its paces.
The procedure was really straight forward. I put the truck on jacks. That might be the best reason for me to get a lift, so I can just slide under and do MX. Anyway, drain, fill, and start the car. I used the return line on the standard transmission cooler to expel the old fluid.
This is only slight more difficult than an oil change! Take a sample of that transmission fluid y'all!
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How are you guys refilling the trans through the refill hole? I haven't crawled underneath yet to take a look, but from the pics I've seen, it looks a little cramped. Are you just using one of those cheap fluid pumps from the auto parts store?
I am going to be doing this change as soon as the weather warms up some and I'm trying to get all the info together.
I think I'm going to stick with the OEM WS fluid.
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Transmission fluid exchange/flush machine
Here's a quote from.....
Mechanic added too much ATF! - Club Lexus Forums
T-Tech TT400 ATF Exchange System
The finest name in ATF exchange just got even better. Like its predecessors, the TT400 utilizes the revolutionary T-Tech process to exchange virtually 100% of the vehicle's transmission fluid. The vehicle's own transmission regulates the exchange process guaranteeing that proper pressure and fill are maintained. An on-board pump speeds cylinder filling. The new TT400 features a rugged new roto-molded case design, upgraded internal plumbing connections, a drip tray enhanced storage space and side pocket for storage of manuals.
Auto-alignment for fast and easy hookups.
Auto-bypass mode when service is completed means the machine can be left unattended.
Clear fluid cylinder drives home the benefit of ATF exchange
Includes standard and special fittings
Leak-free, dry break quick connect couplers.
Drain pan feature to conveniently drain transmission pan.
This is the same machine that was at Jiffy lube on Barber Boulevard in s.w. portland, OR when I worked there in 1997 and it did a phenomenal job too.
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How are you guys refilling the trans through the refill hole? I haven't crawled underneath yet to take a look, but from the pics I've seen, it looks a little cramped. Are you just using one of those cheap fluid pumps from the auto parts store?
I am going to be doing this change as soon as the weather warms up some and I'm trying to get all the info together.
I think I'm going to stick with the OEM WS fluid.
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I just did it tonight... lemme tell you, hella mess... Yes, you'll need a pump from the auto parts store... mine fits either 1 quart bottles and 4 quart bottles... it also has a nozzle on the end with tabs which hold it into the fill hole... comes in real handy for changing diff/transfer fluid too.
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I used this one, way better and faster than the bottle pumps! Plus it was even cheaper!
Multi-Use Transfer Pump
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